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If you know who's under the pad, you will know that ur first 3 statements need not be. Secondly, I don't insult no matter how provoked I am. If there's anyone against u, pls show it to me.

Nevertheless, u have not proved anything yet to show that gathering for FIDAU and eating with Family and Friends on that particular day is a SIN. We don't need to beat about the bush.

Like I said earlier, there are so many things that prophet didn't do/engaged in during his time but you and I are doing today. Then, we all are the culprits. Go to Mecca/Medina and see changes/innovations. I need not to say more.

egalitarianism:
How versed are you in Islamic jurisprudence first? Because your type may not even no more than to be able to read Quran and be objecting evidence of those who have seenore than them.

If you're not well versed, don't interfere whenever they're telling you what Islam is because it's like a primary pupil trying to (act like a doctor) cater for a sick person. What does he know

You do according to what Islam prescribed, not your brain. This got nothing to do with being a degree holder, you can be PhD holder and be zero when it comes to Islamic jurisprudence (if you are not learned in it)

Also, you don't have to insult me, show ethics if being a good Muslim. Don't insult me

You'll see proof now and still be adamant to accept it.


You prepare food for family of the deceased not the other way round you're doing
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said when Ja’far ibn Abi Talib (may Allah be pleased with him) ed away: “Prepare food for the family of Ja’far, for there has come to them something that is preoccupying them.”
(Sunan Abu Dawood, 3132; classified as Sahih by Al-Albani)

Jarir ibn ‘Abdullah (may Allah be pleased with him) said:"We used to consider gathering at the house of the deceased and preparing food after burial as part of wailing.”
(Sunan Ibn Majah, 1612; classified as Hasan by Al-Albani)

Innovation (Bid'ah) is doing an act of religion/worship in a way that wasn't done by the holy prophet himself or the Sahaba or the Tabee'in

There's no where you'll see it that you should picked specific day like 8 or 40 days for praying for the dead.

Prophet ask us to do that every time we finished 5 daily solat

Like seriously? I won't go your way. I was not brought up like that.

However, since your late dad said there should not be any gathering for him when he is gone because of his belief/practice, according to your epistle here, does that make it a deed/compulsion for anyone else?

NOETHNICITY:
Your position makes no logical sense and also lacks any basis in Islamic principles of jurisprudence!

If you are wrong, you’re wrong!
If you are right, then you are right! Period
No sugarcoating

If you say he is wrong, then you would have to tell how he was wrong and under what principle he was!

AbuTwins:


Jazaak Allahu Khayran!

May Allah grant us all understanding and forgive us our past!

Waiyaakum, ameen 🙏

People eating pork meat will never criticise it neither do people eating fidau food will ever do. May Allah forgive us all.

aminauiade:
Like seriously? I won't go your way. I was not brought up like that.

However, since your late dad said there should not be any gathering for him when he is gone because of his belief/practice, according to your epistle here, does that make it a deed/compulsion for anyone else?

I am sorry if you feel insulted
My sincere apologies please.
Didn’t mean to offend you intentionally

However, my dad’s position is strictly inline with the Hadith and sunnah of the Prophet (SAW)

The Quran clearly asks us to follow the ways of the Prophet as a guide
The Quran says the religion has been completed
The prophet went on to warn that believers should desists from bringing anything new into the religion

A lot of people died during the time of the Prophet (saw)
Never for once did he call for fidau prayers

It’s on this ground I lean towards those who chose to stick to the prophetic tradition

To honor my late dad, I sank a borehole in a community mosque in my hometown where water is a serious problem
Thanks Amina

Please stop tagging everything bidia. Maybe it is the school you are following that thought you that.

Fidau is not bidia. Calling it bidia is what is bidia. Fidau just prayers and sadaqa which is highly recommended. However, what people are turning it into is what is appalling

madridguy:
Fidau prayer is never a bidia and doesn't stopped in Yoruba land alone. Make your findings very well and stop saying what Allah S.W.T didn't say in the holy Quran.

Assalamu alaikum.
If you think it is not bidi'a, The Prophet peace be unto him lost 6 of his children.which of them was fidau performed for??

Rashduct4luv:


You should show us where the Prophet you follow performed fidau on his kids that died or others from his wives or companions that died!

You are the one required to bring the evidence that Fidau has any good and show us how the Prophet did it.

It is established in Islam to perform bath for a deceased Muslim and to bury them. Show us the evidence for Fidau, how did the Prophet did it? When did he do it? What was recited? Did he "Ganu si" like those Alfas?

AbuTwins:


Are you a Muslim?

Probably you benefit from the bid'ah of eating at burials too. They share you money!

But a bid'ah is Bid'ah! It is all misguidance that leads to hell!

1. Deeds for the Deceased: The deeds that benefit the deceased have been discussed in a separate post. It is essential to learn how to increase the rewards for deceased Muslim parents.

Here are the Highlights from https://nairaland.sitesunblocked.org/8248289/deeds-meet-dead
a. Ongoing Charity .e.g. a waqf or endowment.
b. A du'a made by a righteous son/daughter.
c. Beneficial knowledge which the dead left behind.
d. Other Charity done on behalf of the dead.
e. Fulfilling the vows of the dead if it does not contradict Islam.
f. Paying the debt of the dead. e.g. Ramadan fasts, money, etc.
g. Performing Hajj/Umrah on behalf of the dead.
h. Allotting a share of the ('Eid al-adha) Sacrifice to one's dead.

So anything the prophet didn't do that's done is a sin?
You people should try am be having sense abeg.
Did the prophet go to school?
Did he use mobile phone?
For as long as people didn't gather to commit sin, there's absolutely nothing wrong.

What kind a senseless and shallow mind do some of you even have like this?
Islam is not so a rigid religion na.

egalitarianism:
Stop saying what you don't know.

Show us where the Holy prophet or Sahaba did so.

You should only interfere in Islamic issue when you have that knowledge

I pity some of una with una senseless shallow and rigid mindset. Did the prophet use mobile phone?

AntilsIam:
Thank God say na dem dey fight themselves. Had it been say na one Christian mistakenly insulted those Alfas, imams. Chief imams, sheikhs, etc with GANUSIOUS ehn, dey 4 don burn all Churches in Nigeria to ashes. Awon Eru-iku jati-jati, rede-rede

So wetin oloriburuku like you dey find for here?
Ọmọ ẹru

NOETHNICITY:
Although I didn’t call your name, but instinctively you knew you are the pig here.

How does it feel to know that you are worse than a pig?

Jonathan:


So anything the prophet didn't do that's done is a sin?

Anything in the religion that is not traceable to the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam is called bid'ah or innovation. It is misguidance which leads to hell.

You people should try am be having sense abeg.
Did the prophet go to school?
Did he use mobile phone?
For as long as people didn't gather to commit sin, there's absolutely nothing wrong.

What kind a senseless and shallow mind do some of you even have like this?
Islam is not so a rigid religion na.

When we talk about religion we don't include mundane affairs and technology. The way we fast and pray is the way the Prophet did it.

Anyone trying to change it now as a Muslim is extremely misguided which may lead to hell.

Using a phone is a mundane affair not directly related to religion. If the phone is used for good then the person earns reward and vice versa.

So anything the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam didn't do in the religion is called misguided innovation to hell fire.

rock003:


How does it feel to know that you are worse than a pig?

That’s how feel, right?
I understand bro

NOETHNICITY:
That’s how feel, right?
I understand bro

It's your feeling, dear below pig. So, explain to us

Jonathan:

I pity some of una with una senseless shallow and rigid mindset. Did the prophet use mobile phone?

It was narrated that Anos ibn Malik said: Three men came to the apartments of the wives of the Prophet to ask about the worship of the Prophet. When they were told about it, it was as if they thought it was litttle. Hence, they said, How can we compare ourselves to the Prophet? For he has been forgiven his past and future sins. One of them said, As for me, I shall pray Qiyam al-layl forever. Another one said: I shall fast every day for my life and never not fast. The third one said: I shall keep away from women and never get married. The Messenger of Allah came to them and said, Are you the ones who said such and such? Indeed, by Allah, I am the one among you who fears Allah the most and is most mindful of Him. But I fast and I do not fast. I pray and I sleep, and I marry women. Whoever turns away from my *sunnah* is not of me.

The Prophet also said, Whoever introduces in this matter of ours, that which is not part of it, it will be *rejected*.

I believe that these two hadiths will help your understanding, other than that I am praying for Allah's aid.

Jonathan:


So anything the prophet didn't do that's done is a sin?

Whatever the Prophet did not do is not accepted as an Islamic deed!

You people should try am be having sense abeg.
Did the prophet go to school?
Did he use mobile phone?

Of course our reasoning is sensible. It is you that should fall in line. If any Tom, Dick and Harry could do anything they like as an Islamic deed then we need no use for the Qur'an and Sunnah to act on. And going to school or using mobile phones are mundane affairs and not religion. What we are talking about is the religious affairs!

For as long as people didn't gather to commit sin, there's absolutely nothing wrong.

What kind a senseless and shallow mind do some of you even have like this?
Islam is not so a rigid religion na.

Allah says:
1. “And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me” Surah Adh-Dhariyat, verse 56.
2. Say (O Muhammad SAW to mankind): "If you (really) love Allah then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Quran and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." Surah Ahl Imran verse 31
3. “He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allah . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:80]
4. ...And let those who oppose the Messenger’s commandment beware, lest some fitnah (trial, affliction, etc.) befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them.” [al-Nur 24:63]
5. “”But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you [Muhammad] judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.” [al-Nisaa’ 4:65]

And you don't need to include abuse in your comments. It shows the kind of personality and upbringing one has!

aminauiade:
You as well should show us where the Prophet used Car, Telephone or ed on nairaland. Show us if he ever watched TV, slept on Mattress and wore koikoi shoes. Tell us if prophet used sandcrete blocks to build any of his houses, used gas cooker or drank processed pure water. What's the reward for someone that uses Car, Telephone and Mattress in heaven, after all, prophet didn't used any of these things. Show us from the Quran or Hadith, if a practice is a SIN or a reward for a particular practice, instead of saying Prophet didn't do this or that. We don't need to be daft sometimes.

Apologies bro. But you need to think in this line. Are those things you mentioned related directly to Islam?
Telephone, TV, Car, etc are technologies or innovations that can be classified good or bad based on how they are used!

We are talking about religious innovations here! Things that were not in Islam at the beginning but added later!

Yunisa001:
can you show it in the Quran and Hadith the Islamic school that prophet Muhammad attended or the one he enroll his children , can u tell me how many Quran competition the prophet Muhammad glance the occasion , can u tell me the certificate prophet Muhammad obtained before he was appointed by Allah has is messager.if u cant provide it , so all those who attend madrasat are bidia? Because prophet Muhammad was only trained by angel jubril.so all the Quran competition are bidia and forbidden because there is no record of it with prophet Muhammad,and setting school certificate as the minimum requirements for western education before someone can be appointed as Immam is bidia and also forbidden. For prophet Muhammad metion pious children as one of deed that can meet the dead has explain it all that 3,7 and 40 days Fidau prayers is not a bidia because no body can organize fidau prayer for dead one except family and good relatives . Allah know best

1. How is attending school part of the Islamic worship?
2. The precedence of any deeds in the religion of Islam should be the Prophet. Did the Prophet do 3 days for any of his kids that died? No!

Then it is bid'a! We should go away from it.

madridguy:
So do you mean the prophet didn't pray for his demised children or wife? So what did he do to them?
So the say he buried them he stopped offering prayer to them?

When the Quran right said that we Muslim should not forget our dead ones like some other faith...

You are just typing without proofs.

Quote the Qur'an verses and the Hadiths you are referring to!

Qasim, Abdallah, UmmKulthum, Ruquoyah, Zainab and Ibrahim all died before the Prophet.

Show us how he did the 3 days or other days Fidau!