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sooperrescue(m): 2:52pm On Jun 29, 2024
zik4ever:
Good morning house. Apologies if this has been provided before. Anyone with idea of price of 2014 Toyota Corolla gear box in Naija (I'm told this is the chain link type). Many thanks.

I was told it costs 980k for 9 pin SA model. The US model might be cheaper
sultaan(m): 3:30pm On Jun 29, 2024
Those 200k plus miles Toyotas (corolla/camry)usually go for $500 at the auction. and if our people are willing to pay N5m more power to Toyota lovers.

Mechanics make so much business fixing Toyotas, that is why they recommend it
Toyota makes really good cars, but in the hands of uneducated Nigerians, it all ends the same way.

Those who have taken the time to educate themselves on the condition of the car they are buying and proper fluids to us will spend less during ownership
sooperrescue(m): 4:03pm On Jun 29, 2024
sultaan:
Those 200k plus miles Toyotas (corolla/camry)usually go for $500 at the auction. and if our people are willing to pay N5m more power to Toyota lovers.

Mechanics make so much business fixing Toyotas, that is why they recommend it
Toyota makes really good cars, but in the hands of uneducated Nigerians, it all ends the same way.

Those who have taken the time to educate themselves on the condition of the car they are buying and proper fluids to us will spend less during ownership


Not sure if you are aware that new Toyotas are also failing. I have a 2014 Corolla bought brand new that even parts sellers are not comfortable selling the gear only without the engine. It is a 9 pin SA model. I was told to buy engine and gearbox together.

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zik4ever: 5:27pm On Jun 29, 2024
sooperrescue:


I was told it costs 980k for 9 pin SA model. The US model might be cheaper
Thanks a lot. Mine is 12 pin US model.
sultaan(m): 5:52pm On Jun 29, 2024
sooperrescue:


Not sure if you are aware that new Toyotas are also failing. I have a 2014 Corolla bought brand new that even parts sellers are not comfortable selling the gear only without the engine. It is a 9 pin SA model. I was told to buy engine and gearbox together.


Clarify your point
You have a 2014 SA model you have been using since 2014 go bad, after 10 years of use in Nigeria.
Maybe your mechanic didnt treat it properly.

The 9 pin is more simpler than the American version it should be easier to fix if they claim they can fix 10 pin
sooperrescue(m): 7:36am On Jul 01, 2024
sultaan:



Clarify your point
You have a 2014 SA model you have been using since 2014 go bad, after 10 years of use in Nigeria.
Maybe your mechanic didnt treat it properly.

The 9 pin is more simpler than the American version it should be easier to fix if they claim they can fix 10 pin

Bought brand new in 2015 and lying fallow for 3 years now. From 550k to 980k with no guarantee unless I buy engine and gearbox. The US spec is very easy to get and adapts easily
Babatundehy: 8:26pm On Jul 02, 2024
sooperrescue:


Bought brand new in 2015 and lying fallow for 3 years now. From 550k to 980k with no guarantee unless I buy engine and gearbox. The US spec is very easy to get and adapts easily

My landlord is a Toyota addict lol, he was using a Toyota Corolla 2003, used for 4 years, he changed a compressor over 4 times, brake calipers twice, and replaced the transmission once, he sold it in a working condition when he wanted to buy 2017 corolla.
The 2017 corolla was bought Tokunbo, I could tell the car was in an accident because the trunk has imperfect shape, but well everything else was okay, besides the cracked windshield, he got it for 8 million ( early 2023), the car came with fan connected directly, all works fine besides this, it is barely used though.
Fast forward to this year, he bought 2007 Toyota highlander (15M), SUV works fine, fan connected directly also, a week after purchase, it overheated, they told him to change the radiator, he bought for 92k, car continued to work fine.
A month or so after, he was scratched by another vehicle around the bumper area at a shopping mall parking area, he sadly found out the bumper wasn't the original one, was a black bumper pained white (the SUV colour), he ordered another bumper from Lagos the next day, he wanted his car to remain in good shape and didn't want no patch work, bumper came and was replaced.
One day he drove out and didn't come back with the SUV, called his wife to come pick him with the corolla, SUV got faulty (less than three months), was a serious transmission issue, yet to be fixed even now.
What's my point, I don't think this has too much to do with the brand of the vehicle, I think this has more to do with age of rje vehicle, how many hands have used and worked on it, the maintenance culture and car care attitude of previous s before being shipped here, I will never believe in the reliability of any foreign used (Tokunbo) vehicle, as far as i don't know nothing about the previous s, our dealers here can be criminals too, buying a car as tokunbo doesn't really keep you from car troubles, Toyota is also definitely not trouble free/ fortified against abuse or old age.
All cars age and fall apart eventually, the question is how long if well maintained, and that's got no definite answer.

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sooperrescue(m): 2:53am On Jul 07, 2024
Babatundehy:


My landlord is a Toyota addict lol, he was using a Toyota Corolla 2003, used for 4 years, he changed a compressor over 4 times, brake calipers twice, and replaced the transmission once, he sold it in a working condition when he wanted to buy 2017 corolla.
The 2017 corolla was bought Tokunbo, I could tell the car was in an accident because the trunk has imperfect shape, but well everything else was okay, besides the cracked windshield, he got it for 8 million ( early 2023), the car came with fan connected directly, all works fine besides this, it is barely used though.
Fast forward to this year, he bought 2007 Toyota highlander (15M), SUV works fine, fan connected directly also, a week after purchase, it overheated, they told him to change the radiator, he bought for 92k, car continued to work fine.
A month or so after, he was scratched by another vehicle around the bumper area at a shopping mall parking area, he sadly found out the bumper wasn't the original one, was a black bumper pained white (the SUV colour), he ordered another bumper from Lagos the next day, he wanted his car to remain in good shape and didn't want no patch work, bumper came and was replaced.
One day he drove out and didn't come back with the SUV, called his wife to come pick him with the corolla, SUV got faulty (less than three months), was a serious transmission issue, yet to be fixed even now.
What's my point, I don't think this has too much to do with the brand of the vehicle, I think this has more to do with age of rje vehicle, how many hands have used and worked on it, the maintenance culture and car care attitude of previous s before being shipped here, I will never believe in the reliability of any foreign used (Tokunbo) vehicle, as far as i don't know nothing about the previous s, our dealers here can be criminals too, buying a car as tokunbo doesn't really keep you from car troubles, Toyota is also definitely not trouble free/ fortified against abuse or old age.
All cars age and fall apart eventually, the question is how long if well maintained, and that's got no definite answer.

You have said it all. Growing up in Europe, my first car was a Toyota Supra and I upgraded to the next model of 1986. That was my first encounter with Toyota but I never made the mistake of shipping it to Nigeria because in the 90s, we never had the right fuel for the car. The Toyota that is being sold in Nigeria is not up to the level of a 1988 Supra both in performance and durability. Imagine a 2014 Corolla SA model that I will need to change the gear along with the engine in order to have peace of mind for a while.

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Babatundehy: 7:57pm On Jul 07, 2024
sooperrescue:


You have said it all. Growing up in Europe, my first car was a Toyota Supra and I upgraded to the next model of 1986. That was my first encounter with Toyota but I never made the mistake of shipping it to Nigeria because in the 90s, we never had the right fuel for the car. The Toyota that is being sold in Nigeria is not up to the level of a 1988 Supra both in performance and durability. Imagine a 2014 Corolla SA model that I will need to change the gear along with the engine in order to have peace of mind for a while.

Yeah, Toyota cars are failing, i just don't think many people talk about it, a friend's 07 Rav 4 transmission had to be worked on, i learned this at church today, the vehicle was purchased foreign used early 2023. I use 09 Sonata and the only thing I've fixed in three years is a fuse, this is not to say Hyundai is better than Toyota, but to say no brand is immune to wear or abuse, the past of my vehicle (oyinbo) could have driven it less and maintained it better.
The point still remains, the older the car, the higher the chances of major components failing within a short time after purchase here as Tokunbo, from bad maintenance, to all sorts of abuse and or even unhealthy mods (relatively new trend), and regular wear, it is why i will pick a 2023 innoson vehicle that costs 18m over a 2018 Toyota/Honda or Benz at the same price.
I don't care so much about the brand, if I'm buying new and there's no major issues for recall or known issues from reviews, if the car is new, then how long It serves me is mostly/totally up to my maintenance game.
A 2024 innoson/Nord/ or any of these brands that can be brought brand new here in Naija ( relatively cheaper than the likes of Toyota/Honda/Nissan/Benz of the same year) are good buys compared to older products of these big names.
If you get brand new money of innoson/Nord go buy am jeje get peace of mind for a few years.
The older the vehicle, the more the troubles to expect, quite simple, no brand, build or model of any vehicle is an exemption to this.
My next car is going to be a brand new car, I don't care what the brand is, just that it'll be brand new, near zero mileage with that new smell of factory leather and dashboard material, i need to talk about "breaking" in lol.

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sooperrescue(m): 9:51am On Aug 01, 2024
Babatundehy:


Yeah, Toyota cars are failing, i just don't think many people talk about it, a friend's 07 Rav 4 transmission had to be worked on, i learned this at church today, the vehicle was purchased foreign used early 2023. I use 09 Sonata and the only thing I've fixed in three years is a fuse, this is not to say Hyundai is better than Toyota, but to say no brand is immune to wear or abuse, the past of my vehicle (oyinbo) could have driven it less and maintained it better.
The point still remains, the older the car, the higher the chances of major components failing within a short time after purchase here as Tokunbo, from bad maintenance, to all sorts of abuse and or even unhealthy mods (relatively new trend), and regular wear, it is why i will pick a 2023 innoson vehicle that costs 18m over a 2018 Toyota/Honda or Benz at the same price.
I don't care so much about the brand, if I'm buying new and there's no major issues for recall or known issues from reviews, if the car is new, then how long It serves me is mostly/totally up to my maintenance game.
A 2024 innoson/Nord/ or any of these brands that can be brought brand new here in Naija ( relatively cheaper than the likes of Toyota/Honda/Nissan/Benz of the same year) are good buys compared to older products of these big names.
If you get brand new money of innoson/Nord go buy am jeje get peace of mind for a few years.
The older the vehicle, the more the troubles to expect, quite simple, no brand, build or model of any vehicle is an exemption to this.
My next car is going to be a brand new car, I don't care what the brand is, just that it'll be brand new, near zero mileage with that new smell of factory leather and dashboard material, i need to talk about "breaking" in lol.
Very well elaborated but not all brand new cars are new. I recall years ago when Honda discussion continues came out into the market, Honda place were trying to sell off the end of discussion Accord with discount to make way for the new. Some of these brand new cars spend more than two years in the Customs warehouses before they are eventually sold off as brand new cars. You might be buying a 2019 car as brand new and it won’t last longer than the 2018 car you bought as toks. The auto industry is in a dilemma

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ariesbull: 5:04am On Aug 04, 2024
sooperrescue:


For those Benz cars with ISM, they are the worst. If the VGS is dirty, that is where the scenario you described occurs but when the ISM fails, the car will be stuck till you remove the propeller to move the car away. If the shaft is out of place, the gear will never move even on gear 1. I know that these are mechanism to protect the gear but the stress involved is out of this world
ISM isn't gear...it's selector and it can be fixed ...also ,it spoils out if carelessness and rarely spoil

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ariesbull: 5:10am On Aug 04, 2024
sultaan:



Clarify your point
You have a 2014 SA model you have been using since 2014 go bad, after 10 years of use in Nigeria.
Maybe your mechanic didnt treat it properly.

The 9 pin is more simpler than the American version it should be easier to fix if they claim they can fix 10 pin
go to any Toyota he must go to mechanic every 4 months
ariesbull: 5:10am On Aug 04, 2024
sooperrescue:
My Toyota gurus, why are Toyota cars always having gear failures? From 1999 till date. Someone recently bought a used gear of a Lexus Rx 350 2017 model for 3.5m and a 2018 highlander for 2.5m. All these excuses of 13 pin, 30 pin, what is the way forward?
cos they are trashy
sooperrescue(m): 10:57pm On Aug 04, 2024
ariesbull:
cos they are trashy
People are still buying the cars
ariesbull: 7:45am On Aug 05, 2024
sooperrescue:

People are still buying the cars
people buy trashy things unknowingly

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