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The three oldest manuscripts of the Qurans are
1. Birmingham Quran Manuscript
Year Written: c.568 AD – 645 AD
The Birmingham Quran Manuscript contains parts of Surah 18 (Al-Kahf), Surah 19 (Maryam), and Surah 20 (Ta-Ha). The manuscript is comprised of two parchment leaves and includes text from these specific surahs.
2. Tübingen Fragment
Year Written: c. 649 AD – 675 AD
The Tubingen Quran contains portions of 11 surahs.
3. Sana’a Manuscript
Year Written: c.671 AD
The Sana’a manuscript includes fragments and parts of approximately 40 different surahs. The lower text (the original writing that was later erased and overwritten) of the palimpsest contains fragments from several surahs, while the upper text (the later writing) also includes portions of many surahs.
The top Quran was dated to the late 7th century to early 8th century while the lower original text which was overwritten was about 671 AD.

Work on restoration and translation of the lower Quran texts were done in five Universities
Albrecht Noth (University of Hamburg)
Gerd R. Puin (University of Saarland)
Hans-Caspar Graf von Bothmer (University of Saarland)
Behnam Sadeghi (Professor of Islamic Studies at Stanford University) and
Mohsen Goudarzi (PhD student at Harvard University).

A detailed narrative of the history and DIFFERENCES found can be found in the link below:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanaa_manuscript


Muslims have always insisted that there is no iota of differences between the Quran of Mohammed and the current Quran that we currently use (the Hafs Quran)

I am going to present evidences from the TRANSLATION according to the team at Stanford University without saying much on them (afterall, I am not an Arabic scholar)


Question:
1. Which one of the current Quran is the Quran of Allah on the tablet in heaven?
2. How come the Sanaa Quran is different from the standard Qurans in many verses?
3. Why did Muslim scholars tell white lies on the preservation of the Quran?

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Quran 2:196

Quran 2:222

Quran 5:44

Quran 9:9

Quran 9:18

Quran 9:80

Quran 19:4

Quran 63:3

Here is a Tabulated list of differences as compiled by www.wikiislam.com on the sanaa manuscript

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Mr Ohyoudidnt ,
As promised. the table is set.

There are no way textual variants do not occur when manuscripts are copied manually, sometimes you have word omission, word addition, word interjection, word substitutions etc.

Why did the islamic scholars have to tell such blatant lies to the Muslims and everyone else that the Quran is perfectly preserved upt to the diacritical marks?



And this is just comparing the Hafs Quran with the existing copy of the Sanaa Quran.

Mr Ohyoudidnt,
This thread has been open for you since morning for you o: I can understand that other Muslims will run away from this eye opener but it seems you forgot you were the one who gave the challenge to me or are you scared too?

TenQ:
Mr Ohyoudidnt,
This thread has been open for you since morning for you o: I can understand that other Muslims will run away from this eye opener but it seems you forgot you were the one who gave the challenge to me or are you scared too?

Dey very careful oh.

Everyday247:
Dey very careful oh.

Who wouldn't die one day?

The lies of Islam are just too much: now, they have convinced themselves that the lies are reality

Indeed I am just noticing this on seeing Everyday247s mention.

In due course it will be addressed once you confirm that discussions are completed at

TenQ:
Islam is a compendium of contradictions and confusion. Most Muslims do not seem to be aware that their Religion is not according to either Allah or Mohammed but according to the consensus of their Scholars.

The Jews came to ask Mohammed a simple question about the Spirit (as every prophet of old relates with God as a Spirit). If indeed Mohammed is a prophet like Moses, Isaiah or Jeremiah, he must know about the Spirit of God . Thus, they asked prophet Mohammad about a question he should know the answer as a prophet.
"What about the spirit?"

Enter the Islamic Confusion: What is a Spirit?
1. Mohammed doesn't know and Allah too seems not to know
Qur'an 17:85
They are asking thee concerning the Spirit. Say: The Spirit is by command of my Lord, and of knowledge ye have been given but little.

The direct question of the Jews wasn't answered by Allah.

2. However, Muslim scholars seem to know what the Spirit is:
They say that the spirit is an Angel called Jibril!

You will notice I have only responded to a part of your response in a bid to clarify your misunderstanding the hadith and Quran verses in context regarding reference to former scripture.

Everyday247:
But it's kinda strange how they will be criticizing Christianity and then recommending a more brutal alternative.😕

The major problem of Islam is LIES.
They have a form of lies for themselves
AND
Another form of lies for others



Thank God for the information age: it is actually extremely difficult to tell lies nowadays.

They were hiding the lies under the language of Arabic thinking that few people would be able to read and comprehend it only for the age of the INTERNET and AI to kick off the ground powerfully.

Ohyoudidnt:
Indeed I am just noticing this on seeing Everyday247s mention.

In due course it will be addressed once you confirm that discussions are completed at


You will notice I have only responded to a part of your response in a bid to clarify your misunderstanding the hadith and Quran verses in context regarding reference to former scripture.

We can conclude the other thread.

I am surprised you are just seeing this sha!

TenQ:

We can conclude the other thread.

I am surprised you are just seeing this sha!

I am very bemused. Be patient please. I take it one at a time. The fuss in the images you attached are very funny so in time we will address the humour

TenQ:

We can conclude the other thread.

I am surprised you are just seeing this sha!

My life is not centred on discussing with you on nairaland.

We cannot conclude the other thread without exactly agreeing can we or agreeing to perpetually disagree which I won't subscribe to without putting good response to your misunderstanding.

TenQ:
Mr Ohyoudidnt,
This thread has been open for you since morning for you o: I can understand that other Muslims will run away from this eye opener but it seems you forgot you were the one who gave the challenge to me or are you scared too?

God bless u bro in the name of Christ Jesus our Savior

Ohyoudidnt:


I am very bemused. Be patient please. I take it one at a time. The fuss in the images you attached are very funny so in time we will address the humour

No problem sir.
I am waiting 'cause I don't see the humour in it

TenQ:


No problem sir.
I am waiting 'cause I don't see the humour in it

Thanks.

While you wait kindly pull out the different arabic words used in place of one another

Ohyoudidnt:


My life is not centred on discussing with you on nairaland.

We cannot conclude the other thread without exactly agreeing can we or agreeing to perpetually disagree which I won't subscribe to without putting good response to your misunderstanding.

My problem with you is this:

A simple statement like:
If (for instance) the Qur'an says,
"Allah eat food and drank water!"

You will say:
No! It doesn't say that!
You don't know Arabic!

You will then say everything except what the plain text is truly saying.

This is my issue with you

seunowa:

God bless u bro in the name of Christ Jesus our Savior

Amen my sister!

The truth always set free those who want it

Ohyoudidnt:


Thanks.

While you wait kindly pull out the different arabic words used in place of one another

As if I was the one who translated the Arabic script.

The differences are highlighted in RED sir!


It's so clear even the blind will see them: Didn't you see the words highlighted in RED?

TenQ:

My problem with you is this:

A simple statement like:
If (for instance) the Qur'an says,
"Allah eat food and drank water!"

You will say:
No! It doesn't say that!
You don't know Arabic!

You will then say everything except what the plain text is truly saying.

This is my issue with you

Your observation is noted though you pick your own example to illustrate perhaps you could have made an exact reference.

Not to engage in futility I ask what it means when the Jews mentioned lighter punishment and cover the text in the Torah saying the punishment due to the fornicator according to the Torah?