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I have this scenario playing out in my mind and I will like everyone to weigh in and give me their honest opinions.

Let's assume your name is Charles and you have a 6 year old daughter and you also have a close friend whose name is Obi.

You and Obi have been friends for more than 10 years and one day, you were going to work, no one us at home and, you asked Obi to take care of your daughter.

Obi agreed afterall, what are friends for right? He came over and sat with your six year old daughter looking after her.

Now, an ugly incident happened while you were away, someone broke into your home, a criminal and a serial sex offender, he attacked your daughter, the poor girl was screaming and crying hysterically in fear, Obi was sitting down, watching the whole incident and did NOTHING.
He could have called 911, he could have directly intervened but he sat there and did nothing, as a matter of fact, he found the whole incident to be amusing.
At the end, the poor girl got raped and blood every where under the watchful eyes of her caretaker, Obi who did not lift a finger to help the poor girl during the whole ordeal.

Now, you are back from work to find your daughter unconscious and ravaged, you were told Obi, your best friend, entrusted with care of your daughter, did nothing to help in her time of need.

My question, what will your reaction be to Obi knowing what you know now? Will you still continue to be best friends and chummy with him? Will you still continue to trust him with your family ?

I need your honest opinion and please stick to the topic

The question I want to ask is why is that "scenario" playing out in your mind, hmm?
What brought about it?

Mariangeles:
The question I want to ask is why is that "scenario" playing out in your mind, hmm?
What brought about it?

Thank you for your response, I will answer your question with detailed explanations but I need to know your position, If you have a friend like Obi, will your friendship continue?

Now, Mr. A has been a Christian and religious all his life, infact he was born into Christianity, he believed in God for the protection of himself and his family

He would wake up every morning for prayers and morning devotions and everything is going on well.
One day, Mr. A sent his young daughter to go buy food in the neighboring street, he waited for hours and the daughter did not return, he started getting apprehensive and it became very dark in the night with no sign of the 6 year old.
Unbeknown to him, the innocent girl was abducted by a sex predator and molested.

Now, Mr. A placed his trust in God who is omniscient and Omnipresent. It meant God was aware and present when the innocent girl was ravaged and he did nothing to help.
Would you suggest Mr. A keeps trusting in God even though God failed to protect his daughter from the predator?

What escuse are you going to make for God it. The scenario above.

Nnamdipapa:
I have this scenario playing out in my mind and I will like everyone to weigh in and give me their honest opinions.

Let's assume your name is Charles and you have a 6 year old daughter and you also have a close friend whose name is Obi.

You and Obi have been friends for more than 10 years and one day, you were going to work, no one us at home and, you asked Obi to take care of your daughter.

Obi agreed afterall, what are friends for right? He came over and sat with your six year old daughter looking after her.

Now, an ugly incident happened while you were away, someone broke into your home, a criminal and a serial sex offender, he attacked your daughter, the poor girl was screaming and crying hysterically in fear, Obi was sitting down, watching the whole incident and did NOTHING.
He could have called 911, he could have directly intervened but he sat there and did nothing, as a matter of fact, he found the whole incident to be amusing.
At the end, the poor girl got raped and blood every where under the watchful eyes of her caretaker, Obi who did not lift a finger to help the poor girl during the whole ordeal.

Now, you are back from work to find your daughter unconscious and ravaged, you were told Obi, your best friend, entrusted with care of your daughter, did nothing to help in her time of need.

My question, what will your reaction be to Obi knowing what you know now? Will you still continue to be best friends and chummy with him? Will you still continue to trust him with your family ?

I need your honest opinion and please stick to the topic

You for use Western names nah, because this kind yeye scenario no fit happen in Nigeria in the presence of a Nigerian(Obi).
Nigerians have their issues, but not when it comes to protecting something entrusted into their care.
They intruder cum rapist go collect well well, so no need going that far of imagining how the friendship will pan out.

Certain scenarios can't happen, these are one of them.

Stop smoking weed and thinking some nollywood shit. Weed is bad for your brain

Mariangeles:
The question I want to ask is why is that "scenario" playing out in your mind, hmm?
What brought about it?

Why are people having a problem with my chosen scenario?

If you trust in someone to take care of you, that person fails in that duty, will you continue to trust that individual again?

On pages of Nairaland, worshippers and their pastor were kidnapped in Delta State, these are individuals who went yo pray to God.

Why pray to a God who cannot do the basic job of protecting you, a God who sits back and enjoys seeing you suffer and ravaged.

Does it mean he is not all powerful or does not even exist? Have you ever asked yourself those questions?

Nnamdipapa:
✓ I have this scenario playing out in my mind and I will like everyone to weigh in and give me their honest opinions.
Let's assume your name is Charles and you have a 6 year old daughter and you also have a close friend whose name is Obi.
You and Obi have been friends for more than 10 years and one day, you were going to work, no one us at home and, you asked Obi to take care of your daughter.
Obi agreed afterall, what are friends for right? He came over and sat with your six year old daughter looking after her.
Now, an ugly incident happened while you were away, someone broke into your home, a criminal and a serial sex offender, he attacked your daughter, the poor girl was screaming and crying hysterically in fear, Obi was sitting down, watching the whole incident and did NOTHING.
He could have called 911, he could have directly intervened but he sat there and did nothing, as a matter of fact, he found the whole incident to be amusing.
At the end, the poor girl got raped and blood every where under the watchful eyes of her caretaker, Obi who did not lift a finger to help the poor girl during the whole ordeal.
Now, you are back from work to find your daughter unconscious and ravaged, you were told Obi, your best friend, entrusted with care of your daughter, did nothing to help in her time of need.
My question, what will your reaction be to Obi knowing what you know now? Will you still continue to be best friends and chummy with him? Will you still continue to trust him with your family ?
I need your honest opinion and please stick to the topic

How did Charles come to conclude that not only was Obi his close friend but he was the right one to contract as babysitter for his precious daughter?

I suspect he may have conveniently ignored many red flags to have decided him the best person to leave the care of his daughter to.

Kobojunkie:
How did Charles come to conclude that not only was Obi his close friend but he was the right one to contract as babysitter for his precious daughter?

They have known each other for more than 10 years and consider themselves best friends.

I am trying to make an allegory to individuals who pray and entrust God with their protections and still become victims of horrible crimes.

When God fails like Obi, we try to make excuses for God who is supposed to be almighty, all-powerful and all-seeing.

Nnamdipapa:
✓ They have known each other for more than 10 years and consider themselves best friends.
✓ I am trying to make an allegory to individuals who pray and entrust God with their protections and still become victims of horrible crimes.
✓ When God fails like Obi, we try to make excuses for God who is supposed to be almighty, all-powerful and all-seeing.

I have known a lot of people longer than that but I wouldn't even approach them to beg for money.

2. Entrust God? I hope we are not here referring to the same God of Israel - YHWH -- who swore from long ago that He only associates with human who are descended from the bloodline of Jacob? Israelite Scripture states that He only provides protection and care to His own, obviously of the bloodline of Israel.

3. So chances are that it was almost always a one-sided closeness with Charles turning a blind eye to what may have been numerous red flags. ,😒😒😒😒

When I see people try to defend their disbelief in God i laugh. Why spend so much time trying to convince others of the inexistent/inactiveness of someone you claim doesn't exist or care?

Here's the hard pill you don't want to swallow, life is good and bad, everyone including children of God will go through life. It is left to you to decide what you make out of it. When I go through bad times, I say "God it's that time again help me like you have done before."

There's divine protection in times where bad situation could lead to destruction if a child of God goes through it but how many people know how God communicates to warn of danger ahead? Yours is just to open mouth waaah and blame God.

It's the entitled ones that even amaze me most... You hear, "Lord how can you let this happen to me". Even Jesus went through pains and hell, who are you again?

Nobody should vex me this night o .

Proserpina:
When I see people try to defend their disbelief in God i laugh. Why spend so much time trying to convince others of the inexistent/inactiveness of someone you claim doesn't exist or care?

Here's the hard pill you don't want to swallow, life is good and bad, everyone including children of God will go through life. It is left to you to decide what you make out of it. When I go through bad times, I say "God it's that time again help me like you have done before."

There's divine protection in times where bad situation could lead to destruction if a child of God goes through it but how many people know how God communicates to warn of danger ahead? Yours is just to open mouth waaah and blame God.

It's the entitled ones that even amaze me most... You hear, "Lord how can you let this happen to me". Even Jesus went through pains and hell, who are you again?

Nobody should vex me this night o .

So you know how God communicate to warn of dangers? You have God special mobile digit?

If you were born in Somalia, you would be a staunch Muslim today.

Nnamdipapa:


So you know how God communicate to warn of dangers? You have God special mobile digit?

If you were born in Somalia, you would be a staunch Muslim today.

Lol is this the person that wants to convince me God is inactive or doesn't exist? You don't know God communicates?

You definitely do not have a relationship with God yet you blame him for your woes. Lol who does that?

Nnamdipapa:
I have this scenario playing out in my mind and I will like everyone to weigh in and give me their honest opinions.

Let's assume your name is Charles and you have a 6 year old daughter and you also have a close friend whose name is Obi.

You and Obi have been friends for more than 10 years and one day, you were going to work, no one us at home and, you asked Obi to take care of your daughter.

Obi agreed afterall, what are friends for right? He came over and sat with your six year old daughter looking after her.

Now, an ugly incident happened while you were away, someone broke into your home, a criminal and a serial sex offender, he attacked your daughter, the poor girl was screaming and crying hysterically in fear, Obi was sitting down, watching the whole incident and did NOTHING.
He could have called 911, he could have directly intervened but he sat there and did nothing, as a matter of fact, he found the whole incident to be amusing.
At the end, the poor girl got raped and blood every where under the watchful eyes of her caretaker, Obi who did not lift a finger to help the poor girl during the whole ordeal.

Now, you are back from work to find your daughter unconscious and ravaged, you were told Obi, your best friend, entrusted with care of your daughter, did nothing to help in her time of need.

My question, what will your reaction be to Obi knowing what you know now? Will you still continue to be best friends and chummy with him? Will you still continue to trust him with your family ?

I need your honest opinion and please stick to the topic

First off .. before we go slamming obi for doing nothing..

Was the criminal holding a weapon let's say gun, is it just one criminal or they were more than one ?? ..

If it happens it's just one and wielded no weapon , then obi must be stupid cause he could have attacked the criminal and averted the whole situation whilst asking the little girl to dial 911 and call the cops or scream for help running bout of the house ..
But if the criminal wielded weapon .. well you can't really blame obi .. if he goes charging at the criminal and get killed in the process .. would the friend of the child he was trying to protect bring him back to life, would he take care of his own kid or kids ... Would he ..

Think about it..

On the flip side , has obi always been that fight we or someone that could challenge someone , he could be so lily livered, he would have easily gotten frightened/scared im situations like that which places him in the position to just watch .. no be every man get that spirit of getting into violent situations..

So which personality does obi have is another question we need to consider before judging obi severely..

Although while the criminal concentrated on the girl, he could used to that opportunity to reach for help or raise an alarm that is if the criminal hasn't tied him up somewhere...


But I'd like to know why obi was asked to come over to watch over the girl and not take the girl over to obi's place or does obi not have a kid of his own..

Nnamdipapa:
Now, Mr. A has been a Christian and religious all his life, infact he was born into Christianity, he believed in God for the protection of himself and his family

He would wake up every morning for prayers and morning devotions and everything is going on well.
One day, Mr. A sent his young daughter to go buy food in the neighboring street, he waited for hours and the daughter did not return, he started getting apprehensive and it became very dark in the night with no sign of the 6 year old.
Unbeknown to him, the innocent girl was abducted by a sex predator and molested.

Now, Mr. A placed his trust in God who is omniscient and Omnipresent. It meant God was aware and present when the innocent girl was ravaged and he did nothing to help.
Would you suggest Mr. A keeps trusting in God even though God failed to protect his daughter from the predator?

What escuse are you going to make for God it. The scenario above.

oh so God is the Mr obi here ..

Lol..

Proserpina:
➜Lol is this the person that wants to convince me God is inactive or doesn't exist? You don't know God communicates?
You definitely do not have a relationship with God yet you blame him for your woes. Lol who does that?

I believe that people who try to argue for or against the existence of a deity are in error. There are over 4000 deities noted by men and the chances that each exists is even in our AI age set at 50-50(50 for and 50 against). So, I never engage in such meaningless arguments myself. However, I find myself interested in understanding the veracity of claims made by those who say they communicate with a deity or have a relationship with a deity. So, can you explain to us which of the over 4000 known deities you have your particular relationship with and communicate with?

Proserpina:
Lol is this the person that wants to convince me God is inactive or doesn't exist? You don't know God communicates?

You definitely do not have a relationship with God yet you blame him for your woes. Lol, who does that?

I honestly don't know God communicates, Please enlighten me like a 5-year-old old how God has communicated with you and how you knew it was a communication from God.

Bear in mind, I am never trying to persuade you against your beliefs, I am trying to gain an insight into your tought process, as a Christian for more than 20 years, I have had specific instances where I believed in the past that I was receiving communication from God but looking back now, I have every reason to believe I was wrong.

Kobojunkie:
I believe that people who try to argue for or against the existence of a deity are in error. There are over 4000 deities noted by men and the chances that each exists is even in our AI age set at 50-50(50 for and 50 against). So, I never engage in such meaningless arguments myself. However, I find myself interested in understanding the veracity of claims made by those who say they communicate with a deity or have a relationship with a deity. So, can you explain to us which of the over 4000 known deities you have your particular relationship with and communicate with?

@Proserpina,

I am interested in the answers to this question too.

Nnamdipapa:
Now, Mr. A has been a Christian and religious all his life, infact he was born into Christianity, he believed in God for the protection of himself and his family

He would wake up every morning for prayers and morning devotions and everything is going on well.
One day, Mr. A sent his young daughter to go buy food in the neighboring street, he waited for hours and the daughter did not return, he started getting apprehensive and it became very dark in the night with no sign of the 6 year old.
Unbeknown to him, the innocent girl was abducted by a sex predator and molested.

Now, Mr. A placed his trust in God who is omniscient and Omnipresent. It meant God was aware and present when the innocent girl was ravaged and he did nothing to help.
Would you suggest Mr. A keeps trusting in God even though God failed to protect his daughter from the predator?

What escuse are you going to make for God it. The scenario above.

You are born a Christian does not make you a Christian.

Christian is by choice!

A true Christian knows what it means to truly have a relay-tionship with God.

A relay-tionship is not one sided. It is exactly that, a lay and a relay in that both parties lay on each other.

So a relay-tionship with God begins when you not only rely on God but He too relies on you.

People only call on God to do for them this and that and call it prayer and morning devotion.

Prayer for work, house rent, protection e.t.c wanting only what God can do for them and never caring what they can do for God and they say they are Christians, that they pray a lot. What a whole lot of rubbish.

Come on, your prayer is for you and you alone. Y'are just selfish and no body likes a selfish person. No one can be in a relay-tionship with such a person.

So sorry you are not in a relay-tionship with God but with yourself.

So blame yourself for any evil that befalls you and not God whom you were never in any relay-tionship to begin with.

Kobojunkie:
I believe that people who try to argue for or against the existence of a deity are in error. There are over 4000 deities noted by men and the chances that each exists is even in our AI age set at 50-50(50 for and 50 against). So, I never engage in such meaningless arguments myself. However, I find myself interested in understanding the veracity of claims made by those who say they communicate with a deity or have a relationship with a deity. So, can you explain to us which of the over 4000 known deities you have your particular relationship with and communicate with?

It is immaterial if there are over 4000 or 6000 dieties so long as they make a reference to the Creator whom we call God, I am fine.

But what else shall a Devil do if not to bring in confusion to lead people astray!

Proserpina:
Lol is this the person that wants to convince me God is inactive or doesn't exist? You don't know God communicates?

You definitely do not have a relationship with God yet you blame him for your woes. Lol who does that?

You dey mind dem? Who does that indeed

Nnamdipapa:
I have this scenario playing out in my mind and I will like everyone to weigh in and give me their honest opinions.

Let's assume your name is Charles and you have a 6 year old daughter and you also have a close friend whose name is Obi.

You and Obi have been friends for more than 10 years and one day, you were going to work, no one us at home and, you asked Obi to take care of your daughter.

Obi agreed afterall, what are friends for right? He came over and sat with your six year old daughter looking after her.

Now, an ugly incident happened while you were away, someone broke into your home, a criminal and a serial sex offender, he attacked your daughter, the poor girl was screaming and crying hysterically in fear, Obi was sitting down, watching the whole incident and did NOTHING.
He could have called 911, he could have directly intervened but he sat there and did nothing, as a matter of fact, he found the whole incident to be amusing.
At the end, the poor girl got raped and blood every where under the watchful eyes of her caretaker, Obi who did not lift a finger to help the poor girl during the whole ordeal.

Now, you are back from work to find your daughter unconscious and ravaged, you were told Obi, your best friend, entrusted with care of your daughter, did nothing to help in her time of need.

My question, what will your reaction be to Obi knowing what you know now? Will you still continue to be best friends and chummy with him? Will you still continue to trust him with your family ?

I need your honest opinion and please stick to the topic

What type of friendship? Is it good morning only friendship?

From his reaction, clearly you are not friends and besides do you not know how to measure if a person you meet is a friend?

Nnamdipapa:


Thank you for your response, I will answer your question with detailed explanations but I need to know your position, If you have a friend like Obi, will your friendship continue?

Surely, Obi was never your friend and you made a big mistake in thinking he was.

But the biggest mistake is u no sabi measure friend?

Free2Fly:


You for use Western names nah, because this kind yeye scenario no fit happen in Nigeria in the presence of a Nigerian(Obi).
Nigerians have their issues, but not when it comes to protecting something entrusted into their care.
They intruder cum rapist go collect well well, so no need going that far of imagining how the friendship will pan out.

Exactly.

Plus mama put no dey abroad.

Plus you no fit send 6yr old go buy food for abroad

Plus for Nigeria we get idea who fit rape person so eye dey on top am well well.

Foodqueen:
Certain scenarios can't happen, these are one of them.

Exactly!

He is just trying to find a way abusing God.

Nnamdipapa:
Why are people having a problem with my chosen scenario?

If you trust in someone to take care of you, that person fails in that duty, will you continue to trust that individual again?

On pages of Nairaland, worshippers and their pastor were kidnapped in Delta State, these are individuals who went yo pray to God.

Why pray to a God who cannot do the basic job of protecting you, a God who sits back and enjoys seeing you suffer and ravaged.

Does it mean he is not all powerful or does not even exist? Have you ever asked yourself those questions?

Everyone here is telling that they are witnesses that they see God takes care of people whether they are worthy or not.

However, they are also telling you that it is understandable that if you do not have a relationship with Him, then it is not surprising that bad would happen to you. And 95% of the time, people play fair weather friends to God. They want Him to be there for them and take care of them and all those things but when it comes to doing His own things, they run away.

And tell me, is it not clear that you are a devil, for since you have made up your mind that you would hate God, why are you trying to force others, since you are not the one they raped or kidnapped in Delta?

If you are not a devil then why is it paining that other people pray to God?

Nnamdipapa:


@Proserpina,

I am interested in the answers to this question too.

Like you have seen a property that is owned by 4000 people.
See foolishness.

Nnamdipapa:


They have known each other for more than 10 years and consider themselves best friends.

I am trying to make an allegory to individuals who pray and entrust God with their protections and still become victims of horrible crimes.

When God fails like Obi, we try to make excuses for God who is supposed to be almighty, all-powerful and all-seeing.