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luminouz:

Which kain mumu question you dey ask?

Who brought the word love to Africa of not Shakespeare and his mumu stories?

If your tribe is too primitive to have a word for love until you read Shakespeare, why do you assume that to be the case for all African tribes

anonimi:


If your tribe is too primitive to have a word for love until you read Shakespeare, why do you assume that to be the case for all African tribes

Alaye..koshidanu and stop asking me oponu questions.


I don address you, now crawl away somewhere deep and dark, poke your hand in your ass and smell that for a week in isolation.

I recently got to know this young lady. Asked her to me this weekend for a drink, she was happy but days later, she told me something came up. Well I did have a good time on my own.

Is it necessarily asking her out for a drink again? I don't wanna cuz e go make me look desperate. i just wan knack her dey go. 😒

Kaido:
I recently got to know this young lady. Asked her to me this weekend for a drink, she was happy but days later, she told me something came up. Well I did have a good time on my own.

Is it necessarily asking her out for a drink again? I don't wanna cuz e go make me look desperate. i just wan knack her dey go. 😒

If the guy she truly wants asked her to go out for drinks, she would not have flaked (at least not without explaining herself and arranging another date). That girl doesn't like you. Accept this reality and move on.
Don't make the mistake of orbiting around and trying to apply "game" to have her chase you or whatnot. It will just be a waste of time and energy. Keep it moving.

And yes, you would look desperate by asking her out again.

Do not waste your time trying to get a woman who doesn't like you to like you.
That's not having "game". That's just having low self-esteem, misplaced priorities, lack of self-love, a carnal mind, and delusional thinking.
Just don't do it.

Kipaji:


If the guy she truly wants asked her to go out for drinks, she would not have flaked (at least not without explaining herself and arranging another date). That girl doesn't like you. Accept this reality and move on.
Don't make the mistake of orbiting around and trying to apply "game" to have her chase you or whatnot. It will just be a waste of time and energy. Keep it moving.

And yes, you would look desperate by asking her out again.

Thank you for being honest.

Kaido:
I recently got to know this young lady. Asked her to me this weekend for a drink, she was happy but days later, she told me something came up. Well I did have a good time on my own.

Is it necessarily asking her out for a drink again? I don't wanna cuz e go make me look desperate. i just wan knack her dey go. 😒

You most likely didnt ask her out properly that's why she flaked. There is a correct order and process to ask out girls

Anyways, girls sometimes flake to test how the guy will respond. Just be chill and unphased about it


Hit her up tomorrow or Wednesday and just vibe with her... don't bring up the date. Don't over invest while texting her. Just keep it cool and fun

Do this tomorrow and Wednesday. Don't reply her on Thursday. Then vibe with her on Friday... and ask her out for the weekend

Ideally weekends aren't great times to ask out women but they sometimes work.

In summary... don't ask her out immediately. Vibe with her then ask her out again On a high note

Rizzputin:



You most likely didnt ask her out properly that's why she flaked. There is a correct order and process to ask out girls

Anyways, girls sometimes flake to test how the guy will respond. Just be chill and unphased about it


Hit her up tomorrow or Wednesday and just vibe with her... don't bring up the date. Don't over invest while texting her. Just keep it cool and fun

Do this tomorrow and Wednesday. Don't reply her on Thursday. Then vibe with her on Friday... and ask her out for the weekend

Ideally weekends aren't great times to ask out women but they sometimes work.

In summary... don't ask her out immediately. Vibe with her then ask her out again On a high note

Wow, all these calculations over puśsy? All while the guy she likes doesn't have to worry about any of this shít?

Kipaji:

3) men that are OK being single and sexless forever if it means not having to degrade themselves via simping, chasing, pandering, jestering, performing, betabuxxing, cuckolding, disrespect, etc.

This right here my bro, is the simple, clear and straightforward definition of "abundance mindset". Unfortunately, not many humans can train their mind to this level and so the "spinning plates or having thousands of girls" becomes the alternative...
Top Athletes would always say " The competition is won in the mind first".

Nice point

Kipaji:

That's not having "game".

Again, Unfortunately, the "game" over 90% of men desperately want to learn is - in simple, clear and straightforward term - " the use of words, signs, body language, actions to convince someone who has shown no interest in you to become interested".. And in my opinion, it is significantly different from the "game" someone - who people already find attractive from the get go or who is dealing with those that has shown interest - needs

Kipaji:



Wow, all these calculations over puśsy? All while the guy she likes doesn't have to worry about any of this shít?

A girl can like you and still flake or test you.

Secondly, there's a good chance he didn't present himself or game her properly.

There are guys who love to go for only girls that are interested in them from the onset. That's okay. But it's a boring way of seduction


Real game is the ability to turn red or yellow girls into green. That girl doing shakara for you... All of a sudden begging for your dìck In a week. That's what real game is

If all you do is go for girls that are high interest from the beginning.... you won't learn anything. And it will limit the amount and quality of girls you'll get.

To Summarise: A girl testing you doesn't mean she doesn't like you. That is a wrong belief most guys have on this thread. Both women that like you and don't like you will test you

If that guy plays his cards right... he'll fùck her this weekend. What will you now say? That she liked him from the beginning abi lol

Zabiboy:

Again, Unfortunately, the "game" over 90% of men desperately want to learn is - in simple, clear and straightforward term - " the use of words, signs, body language, actions to convince someone who has shown no interest in you to become interested".. And in my opinion, it is significantly different from the "game" someone - who people already find attractive from the get go or who is dealing with those that has shown interest - needs

They're all game. But you're right... most guys just want girls that are interested in them from the get go.

But like I said above it's boring. Turning a girl who showed no interest into her loving your dìck is where the fun in seduction lies

Most guys are clueless on how to do that and/or too lazy to do it... so they just go for super green girls.

But there are simple solutions to most things.

That guy will learn WAY MORE trying to turn this situation around than just abandoning her.

To the untrained eye game might look like "calculations" BUT to the experienced.... It's just another day to enjoy life

Hello Guys


I'm kinda curious and I need your outputs.


Most girls or should I say all the girls I got in touch with after loosing over a long period of time.


Whenever I ask them what they are doing for a living right now or I tell them what I do and I ask them what they do in return, they all tend to switch off.


I mean the conversation tends to die from there henceforth. It's just as if they don't want to discuss that part of their lives.



Am I wrong asking what the ladies do for a living?


CC Rizzputin

Pukkalolo

Pansophist

Ubunja


And all other gurus I forgot to mention.

JESHAL007:
Niggas be telling me that they will vet and vet
Oga U be veterinarian
No woman is without bullshit
What marry in the first place?
I tried to find out why most of our red pill guys still get married.
These are people that have been in the game longer than I have.
They can't even tell me something reasonable. I asked a couple of them on telegram.
Do you want to marry because of children?
-no
U want to find happiness
-no
U wanna give momma grand children
-no
Are you afraid of loneliness
-no
Is it the society
-no
Peer pressure
-no
I don't understand
Why the fvck do you want to get married then ?
I just want to get married and have the experience.
The fvck, are serious
Let me me ask you guys here
If you plan to get married
Please tell me why
I'm dieing to know
Please tell me

1. If you truly want to be logical about life, it will be hypocritical to know about suicide and still decide to be alive today.

Why do I say so?

Because the end of life is nothing. Literally nothing.

So, tell me, why do you struggle day and night for a brighter future?
Why do you dream big?
Why do you have ambitions?

Or, are you gonna lie to me that you don't know that all living things die? And you will die someday.

In fact, every breathe you take upon the surface of the earth fills you with life and at the same time draws you to your grave.

Why bother yourself when you will end down in 6 feet in less than 70 years from now?

If we truly want to be logical about life, there's absolutely nothing that makes sense. Absolutely nothing.

2. Despite this fact, we dear the adverse nature of life. We struggle for a better end. We work smart. We work hard. We like food. We like beautiful things. We like luxury. We like comfort. Because they are what makes life temporarily enjoyable till the coming of death.

3. Some see love and romance as what gives them happiness.
Some see their job as what gives them happiness.
Some see traveling as what gives them happiness.
Some see reading as what gives them happiness.
Some see adventures as what gives them happiness.

Therefore, it will be naive of you to think that because you chose work that gives you happiness, then, you are better than the one that chose love and romance. Or, vice versa.

: it all ends in death. So, what makes you think that one is better than the other for following a transient point of happiness that differs from yours?

4. Let me state this clearly: the number 1 motivating force and power on earth is SEX - which is further substantiated on the foundation of relationships, love, romance, and marriage.

Your work as an inventor, scientist, innovator, engineer, thinker, writer, philosopher, etc will only be valued by a human population who can only come into existence through SEX.

5. Many great men in history never got married. But it took the population of men who got married to birth offsprings that made these men who would have been lost in the archives of history to remain known to the world and their works accessible by the sons of men on earth.

Nikola Tesla didn't get married. But nobody would have known about Nikola Tesla and his works if the people in his time shunned sex and marriage.

Hope you are getting the point now.

6. The problem we have today is that we are judging love and romance based on what we are seeing and experiencing today. Rather than judge by looking at their true meaning and purpose.

7. There can be sex without marriage. But there will be no society without marriage. Every society that seems to be collapsing today is because of the rampancy of sex. Where sex is not sacred under a notable institution, civilization declines gradually.

The importance of marriage is to make sex sacred. If sex becomes rampant and cheap with every cent and kobo, that society will end up down the drain.

So, marriage is not as useless as you think.

8. Again, the reason young men still find women difficult is because they expect women to be who they are not.

That's where the Redpill comes in. However, most men these days are trying to use it as an avenue to hate women or abstain from romance entirely.

Women are who they are. They will not change. It's simply their evolutionary and biological makeup. Instead of hating or avoiding them, you learn how to deal with them, hence, GAME.

9. Women are like pets. You will never expect your dog to start acting like a human someday. No matter the human training you give to a dog, a dog will still remain a dog. But should that stop you from loving the dog, no.

Will you now say because of the occurrences of road accidents, you will never ride a car? No.

Begin to extrapolate this logic to other areas of life - business, investments, etc.

10. It's the same thing with women. You understand their modus operandi and leverage it for a successful relationship.

If I'm not going to avoid other things in life because of their downsides - all things have both pros and cons - then, it will be ridiculous to avoid women because of their dark side. Even men have their dark sides too. All humans.

11. There's this hypocrisy men are now carrying around based on the revelation of female nature and psychology as if men themselves are innocents and saints. Meanwhile, we are all sides of the same coin; dress from the same material.

12. Women are a reflection of what men permit in society. And men become what women reward.
And don't forget this - SEX IS THE ULTIMATE RULER OF THE UNIVERSE.

13. To your question:

Marriage preserves the sanctity of sex. Because a society without tough rails on sex will turn into a cesspool.

A functional society is built on a sound micro system - a family. A system of similar people and cultures. And family is constructed with the bricks and fabrics of marriage.

Why sex? Without sex, the human population comes to an abrupt end.

The fact that this path doesn't makes sense to you doesn't in anyway makes it less important on a macro scale. It's the same way they will see your path too - useless.

It comes down to you finding a path that you enjoy and seems more meaningful to you.

Thanks.

@CaveAdullam, I'm glad to see you back. Where have you been? Conferring with the gods?

Anyway, I'm glad to see Jeshal, a redpiller, asking a question to pro-marriage redpillers and a pro-marriage redpiller answering with credible reasons for his choice. Hopefully, as usual as it was in the past, this yields a cordial discussion without toxic elements and nuisances hopping on this to throw mud at others. This is a little example of what these thread used to be. I dey come.

Rizzputin:


A girl can like you and still flake or test you.

Flaking (especially without explanation and tentative to fix another date) is disrespectful. Never accept disrespectful behavior from any woman. Whether she likes you or not, whether she is your wife or girlfriend, respect is a like she should never cross.
Better a woman that respects me and doesn't like me than a woman who "likes" me and disrespect me by flaking like this.

Secondly, there's a good chance he didn't present himself or game her properly.

Rizzputin, we have just one life to live. Why waste it trying to be something you are not to impress a woman that can't do anything for you beside providing a few minutes of pleasure? Guys, live your life. Enjoy yourself. Be who you are. Do not compromise that for any woman (or anybody for that matter). Talk in your natural way of talking, walk in your natural way of walking, behave the way you naturally do, stand on what you truly believe, and do not let this world compromise you. Do not change a single bit for women. Do not make the mistake of Adam who compromised himself to please Even, like most redpillers compromise themselves in the hope of appealing to and attracting women (changing their raw real personalities and behavior to become "bad boys" or whatever).

Who you are is more important than her puśsy, especially these days were the average girl's pussy is infected, spiritually corrupted, dirty and stinky, used and overused.

Kaido, don't bother with that "game" stuff. Be yourself. Even if it means most women won't look at you twice, be yourself. Even if it means women will call you boring, be yourself. Even if it means you'll be sexless, be yourself. Do not sell your soul for pussy. (Besides, if you have to be anything but your true self to get a woman, is that really a woman you want?)

There are guys who love to go for only girls that are interested in them from the onset. That's okay. But it's a boring way of seduction


Real game is the ability to turn red or yellow girls into green. That girl doing shakara for you... All of a sudden begging for your dìck In a week. That's what real game is

Alright. I guess it must have been working for you. You must have met many girls who weren't really into you but eventually fell for you. I don't doubt your experience. All the best to you.

But to me, that's mostly a waste of time and energy. What did you get out of all these weeks/months of trying to turn red into green? A few minutes a pleasure from a used pussy (and probably a bill of some sort, e.g. transport, drinks)? Was it worth it?

If all you do is go for girls that are high interest from the beginning.... you won't learn anything. And it will limit the amount and quality of girls you'll get.

What have you learned since you dealt with low interest girls?

To Summarise: A girl testing you doesn't mean she doesn't like you. That is a wrong belief most guys have on this thread. Both women that like you and don't like you will test you

I don't give fúck a woman's shìt test, she is NEVER disrespecting me. Whether it was a test or not, I don't care. If she disrespects me by flaking like this, she can forget about me. She can keep her disrespectful puśsy to herself.

If that guy plays his cards right... he'll fùck her this weekend. What will you now say? That she liked him from the beginning abi lol

I don't think that he can't get the pússy. Women these days, don't have standards when it comes to sex, especially if money is involved.

But Rizzputin, why would you want to fûck a woman who doesn't even respect you? Is the pússy really that good? Will your self-esteem and self-love allow you to give yourself (energy, semen) to a woman who blatantly disrespected you? Does her disrespectful self deserve it just because she has a hole between her legs?

CaveAdullam:


1. If you truly want to be logical about life, it will be hypocritical to know about suicide and still decide to be alive today.

Why do I say so?

Because the end of life is nothing. Literally nothing.

So, tell me, why do you struggle day and night for a brighter future?
Why do you dream big?
Why do you have ambitions?

Or, are you gonna lie to me that you don't know that all living things die? And you will die someday.

In fact, every breathe you take upon the surface of the earth fills you with life and at the same time draws you to your grave.

Why bother yourself when you will end down in 6 feet in less than 70 years from now?

If we truly want to be logical about life, there's absolutely nothing that makes sense. Absolutely nothing.

2. Despite this fact, we dear the adverse nature of life. We struggle for a better end. We work smart. We work hard. We like food. We like beautiful things. We like luxury. We like comfort. Because they are what makes life temporarily enjoyable till the coming of death.

3. Some see love and romance as what gives them happiness.
Some see their job as what gives them happiness.
Some see traveling as what gives them happiness.
Some see reading as what gives them happiness.
Some see adventures as what gives them happiness.

Therefore, it will be naive of you to think that because you chose work that gives you happiness, then, you are better than the one that chose love and romance. Or, vice versa.

: it all ends in death. So, what makes you think that one is better than the other for following a transient point of happiness that differs from yours?

4. Let me state this clearly: the number 1 motivating force and power on earth is SEX - which is further substantiated on the foundation of relationships, love, romance, and marriage.

Your work as an inventor, scientist, innovator, engineer, thinker, writer, philosopher, etc will only be valued by a human population who can only come into existence through SEX.

5. Many great men in history never got married. But it took the population of men who got married to birth offsprings that made these men who would have been lost in the archives of history to remain known to the world and their works accessible by the sons of men on earth.

Nikola Tesla didn't get married. But nobody would have known about Nikola Tesla and his works if the people in his time shunned sex and marriage.

Hope you are getting the point now.

6. The problem we have today is that we are judging love and romance based on what we are seeing and experiencing today. Rather than judge by looking at their true meaning and purpose.

7. There can be sex without marriage. But there will be no society without marriage. Every society that seems to be collapsing today is because of the rampancy of sex. Where sex is not sacred under a notable institution, civilization declines gradually.

The importance of marriage is to make sex sacred. If sex becomes rampant and cheap with every cent and kobo, that society will end up down the drain.

So, marriage is not as useless as you think.

8. Again, the reason young men still find women difficult is because they expect women to be who they are not.

That's where the Redpill comes in. However, most men these days are trying to use it as an avenue to hate women or abstain from romance entirely.

Women are who they are. They will not change. It's simply their evolutionary and biological makeup. Instead of hating or avoiding them, you learn how to deal with them, hence, GAME.

9. Women are like pets. You will never expect your dog to start acting like a human someday. No matter the human training you give to a dog, a dog will still remain a dog. But should that stop you from loving the dog, no.

Will you now say because of the occurrences of road accidents, you will never ride a car? No.

Begin to extrapolate this logic to other areas of life - business, investments, etc.

10. It's the same thing with women. You understand their modus operandi and leverage it for a successful relationship.

If I'm not going to avoid other things in life because of their downsides - all things have both pros and cons - then, it will be ridiculous to avoid women because of their dark side. Even men have their dark sides too. All humans.

11. There's this hypocrisy men are now carrying around based on the revelation of female nature and psychology as if men themselves are innocents and saints. Meanwhile, we are all sides of the same coin; dress from the same material.

12. Women are a reflection of what men permit in society. And men become what women reward.
And don't forget this - SEX IS THE ULTIMATE RULER OF THE UNIVERSE.

13. To your question:

Marriage preserves the sanctity of sex. Because a society without tough rails on sex will turn into a cesspool.

A functional society is built on a sound micro system - a family. A system of similar people and cultures. And family is constructed with the bricks and fabrics of marriage.

Why sex? Without sex, the human population comes to an abrupt end.

The fact that this path doesn't makes sense to you doesn't in anyway makes it less important on a macro scale. It's the same way they will see your path too - useless.

It comes down to you finding a path that you enjoy and seems more meaningful to you.

Thanks.

Oh wow, how insightful!

The part about how it doesn't make much sense to refuse to engage with women because of their bad sides and risks while we regularly engage in other things with bad sides and risks, is the one that caught my attention the most.
But why though? Why is it that when it comes to women, a lot of men these days just give up? As you said, businesses, transportation, etc. have their whole lot of risks too. So, what is particular about the women case?

Kipaji:


Flaking (especially without explanation and tentative to fix another date) is disrespectful. Never accept disrespectful behavior from any woman. Whether she likes you or not, whether she is your wife or girlfriend, respect is a like she should never cross.
Better a woman that respects me and doesn't like me than a woman who "likes" me and disrespect me by flaking like this.




Rizzputin, we have just one life to live. Why waste it trying to be something you are not to impress a woman that can't do anything for you beside providing a few minutes of pleasure? Guys, live your life. Enjoy yourself. Be who you are. Do not compromise that for any woman (or anybody for that matter). Talk in your natural way of talking, walk in your natural way of walking, behave the way you naturally do, stand on what you truly believe, and do not let this world compromise you. Do not change a single bit for women. Do not make the mistake of Adam who compromised himself to please Even, like most redpillers compromise themselves in the hope of appealing to and attracting women (changing their raw real personalities and behavior to become "bad boys" or whatever).

Who you are is more important than her puśsy, especially these days were the average girl's pussy is infected, spiritually corrupted, dirty and stinky, used and overused.

Kaido, don't bother with that "game" stuff. Be yourself. Even if it means most women won't look at you twice, be yourself. Even if it means women will call you boring, be yourself. Even if it means you'll be sexless, be yourself. Do not sell your soul for pussy. (Besides, if you have to be anything but your true self to get a woman, is that really a woman you want?)




Alright. I guess it must have been working for you. You must have met many girls who weren't really into you but eventually fell for you. I don't doubt your experience. All the best to you.

But to me, that's mostly a waste of time and energy. What did you get out of all these weeks/months of trying to turn red into green? A few minutes a pleasure from a used pussy (and probably a bill of some sort, e.g. transport, drinks)? Was it worth it?



What have you learned since you dealt with low interest girls?




I don't give fúck a woman's shìt test, she is NEVER disrespecting me. Whether it was a test or not, I don't care. If she disrespects me by flaking like this, she can forget about me. She can keep her disrespectful puśsy to herself.




I don't think that he can't get the pússy. Women these days, don't have standards when it comes to sex, especially if money is involved.

But Rizzputin, why would you want to fûck a woman who doesn't even respect you? Is the pússy really that good? Will your self-esteem and self-love allow you to give yourself (energy, semen) to a woman who blatantly disrespected you? Does her disrespectful self deserve it just because she has a hole between her legs?

"Be yourself" This bs advice and many more is PRECISELY why guys do badly not just with women but in life as a whole. It's TERRIBLE advice

You want to be & BECOME the best version of yourself. The so called good life you want to leave doesn't come easy.

You're not charismatic? Fix it
You don't talk well? Fix it
You're shy? Fix it

Telling people to "naturally" stay who they are even when it hinders their progress is just terrible advice. No matter how you paint it

Your goal as a man is to grow and develo yourself. And this involves... CHANGING things about you. There's nothing wrong with change that makes you grow. Embrace it and learn from it.

Now.... let's continue

"Flaking (especially without explanation and tentative to fix another date) is disrespectful"

I know you read this in some redpoll book. But as I've said many times, book and real life are not entirely the same

It is quite hypocritical of you to address people you meet In your own life by how they present themselves BUT you ignorantly think women will be different.

Let's say you're a naturally confident & funny guy especially at work and around your friends or even with certain women....

Yet when you met this particular girl... you were shy... timid... boring... and practically annoying In your presentation... HOW do you expect her to see you?

Does she have a crystal ball to know that Kipaji is a funny guy? She will address based on your current presentation

I always tell guy this which you should tattoo at the back of your mind as well:

Women don't necessarily reject you.... they reject the VERSION of you that you show them

Stop being so bitter and worked up.... demanding for respect you most likely haven't earned or deserved.

So you want her to drop all she has for you even when her interest in you is LOW.... due to your bad game? That's living a fantasy lol

It's guys like you that shout about respect the most that have the most trouble getting women to respect them

, that respect is EARNED. Not demanded.

Kipaji:


Oh wow, how insightful!

The part about how it doesn't make much sense to refuse to engage with women because of their bad sides and risks while we regularly engage in other things with bad sides and risks, is the one that caught my attention the most.
But why though? Why is it that when it comes to women, a lot of men these days just give up? As you said, businesses, transportation, etc. have their whole lot of risks too. So, what is particular about the women case?

It's simple. They give up because of bad advice like "be yourself"


And because actually becoming the man that women want to fùck & respect requires work on yourself

You don't get there simply by reading 500 red pill books

Martinez39s:
@CaveAdullam, I'm glad to see you back. Where have you been? Conferring with the gods?

Anyway, I'm glad to see Jeshal, a redpiller, asking a question to pro-marriage redpillers and a pro-marriage redpiller answering with credible reasons for his choice. Hopefully, as usual, as it was in the past, this yields a cordial discussion without toxic elements and nuisances hopping on this to throw mud at others. This is a little example of what these threads used to be. I dey come.

Once upon a time, I never missed reading a page in this thread. But since the 2021 and 2022 series ended, I've been unable to keep up. Even many redpill nuggets I wrote down have started gathering dust on paper with almost faded ink.

Coupled with the fact that the thread is now a conglomeration of alpha males with coconut heads. Simply can't be wasting time doing back and forth. Though, it pains me because my followers aren't getting fed as usual.

I digress.

Marriage is not by force. Neither is it compulsory. Every man must choose which cross he wants to carry.

Like I said before, if we were to be truly logical, the bravest humans who ever existed are those who fvck themselves through a suicide mission. Closely followed by monks. Because they clearly understood that life is utterly meaningless if we are to consider the irrefutable evidence death presents.

But an ambitious man with clear goals and visions, filled with lust for luxury and comfort, and an overflowing vigor to traverse mountains and rivers, saying he isn't going to consider marriage, which serves as an opportunity to build a dynasty, reeks of naivety.

"Oh, we can have children without getting married."

I don't even need to argue that. There is a lot of research that states that "children from a two-parent household do better and are more stable than children of single parents".

It's always easy to say you can raise children solely until you meet and interact with widows and widowers.

About 2 years ago, in VI, I met a British guy who did surrogacy. He had beautiful male twins. But the few times I met him and those kids, I knew both father and sons were literally suffering. But ego and pride wouldn't make him see the wrong choice he has made. I do always pray those kids survive up to childhood. As of that time, they were less than 3 months old. The way he was taking care of those twins and handling them wasn't the same way a mother would.

Fun fact: it was the female workers in the hotel that were still helping him with the kids. Man doesn't even have a life because he must always be with the kids.

So, an ambitious man, one looking to become wealthy in the future, what's your purpose actually?

No kids to inherit your possessions.

Who will have access to the royalty of your IP?
Who will have access to your big fat bank s?

It would be stupid to tell me you will give it to charity or the orphanage.

Or, your family who will birth kids and reap everything you've planted with just a surname.

If you are a minimalist and don't want to get married fine. It makes sense. But for an ambitious man, it's ridiculous.

I know it's all a desire for vain glory. Because it all ends in death. But we can still make it make sense while on Earth.

We must be pragmatic in our decisions today. So that we don't end up regretting it in the future.

If you want to marry, fine.
If you want to remain a bachelor forever, fine.

There's logic to back them up. It comes down to which color of poison we find appealing. Because death is inevitable.

Thanks.

"A man who has conquered his lust has conquered half his problems in this world."
- Anonymous

"Do not let yourself be guided by the feeling of lust or love."
- Miyamoto Musashi

Kipaji:


Oh wow, how insightful!

The part about how it doesn't make much sense to refuse to engage with women because of their bad sides and risks while we regularly engage in other things with bad sides and risks is the one that caught my attention the most.
But why though? Why is it that when it comes to women, a lot of men these days just give up? As you said, businesses, transportation, etc., have their whole lot of risks, too. So, what is particular about the women case?

To be sincere many are avoiding women because of low ball game. (I know this happens in the West too due to a skewed and porous legislature. So, it seems better now for Western men to ignore women. Ignoring women totally without finding a way to destroy the demonic legislature against family and relationships will steadily lead to an extinction of their race).

Back to Africans.

There are so many reasons you can count which are valid for ignoring women. But as it stands a man can still get a good woman if he decides to.

What's happening is that they are using these excuses not to enter GAME at all. Meanwhile, it's just LOW CONFIDENCE MASKED WITH REDPILL.

Sex is the first thing on the list of the male species across the animal kingdom. That's why you see male animal species doing the most for female animal species. Because sex is an opportunity to sustain his genes for aeons in the genetic pool.

Every other things after sex is secondary.

Many different ways have been stated previously on how to approach women - cold and warm approaching.

I know women are this and that. But are the men saints? No. Men are also accomplices in the pollution of the dating pool. However, modern-day men only see the speck of dust in women's eyes and ignore the log of wood in their eyes.

Men and women contribute to the mess we are experiencing today in dating and marriage.

It's your choice if you decide to avoid women entirely.
But if you still desire feminine warmth in your closet, it's no longer a choice but a lack of opportunity.

Everything in life involves risk.

Being in your mother's womb for 9 months was a risk.
Surviving infancy and childhood is a risk.
Taking responsibility of others as an adult is a risk.
Having to commute to work every day in a busy metropolitan area is a risk.
Entrepreneurship is a risk.

Even dating is a risk for both man and woman.

So, what makes the case different when it comes to dating and relationships? Why all the fears?

The essence of the Redpill is to understand female psychology and nature and learn to work with it as a man.

To make it clear, dating or relationship is not compulsory. However, coming up with thinkpieces for men to entirely avoid it while using plausible rationales is where the real problem lies.

Many women are unfit for dating and relationships. A man interested in a romantic relationship must:

A. Know the redpill.
B. Become the best version of himself.
C. Traverse his territory or geography to get the best of women where they are located.

You can't be lying down inside your bedroom and expecting a good woman to walk up to you. Rather, you put yourself in a position and location where it becomes possible for good women to access you. Or, to access the kind of women you want.

Thanks.

Kipaji:


Flaking (especially without explanation and tentative to fix another date) is disrespectful. Never accept disrespectful behavior from any woman. Whether she likes you or not, whether she is your wife or girlfriend, respect is a like she should never cross.
Better a woman that respects me and doesn't like me than a woman who "likes" me and disrespect me by flaking like this.




Rizzputin, we have just one life to live. Why waste it trying to be something you are not to impress a woman that can't do anything for you beside providing a few minutes of pleasure? Guys, live your life. Enjoy yourself. Be who you are. Do not compromise that for any woman (or anybody for that matter). Talk in your natural way of talking, walk in your natural way of walking, behave the way you naturally do, stand on what you truly believe, and do not let this world compromise you. Do not change a single bit for women. Do not make the mistake of Adam who compromised himself to please Even, like most redpillers compromise themselves in the hope of appealing to and attracting women (changing their raw real personalities and behavior to become "bad boys" or whatever).

Who you are is more important than her puśsy, especially these days were the average girl's pussy is infected, spiritually corrupted, dirty and stinky, used and overused.

Kaido, don't bother with that "game" stuff. Be yourself. Even if it means most women won't look at you twice, be yourself. Even if it means women will call you boring, be yourself. Even if it means you'll be sexless, be yourself. Do not sell your soul for pussy. (Besides, if you have to be anything but your true self to get a woman, is that really a woman you want?)




Alright. I guess it must have been working for you. You must have met many girls who weren't really into you but eventually fell for you. I don't doubt your experience. All the best to you.

But to me, that's mostly a waste of time and energy. What did you get out of all these weeks/months of trying to turn red into green? A few minutes a pleasure from a used pussy (and probably a bill of some sort, e.g. transport, drinks)? Was it worth it?



What have you learned since you dealt with low interest girls?




I don't give fúck a woman's shìt test, she is NEVER disrespecting me. Whether it was a test or not, I don't care. If she disrespects me by flaking like this, she can forget about me. She can keep her disrespectful puśsy to herself.




I don't think that he can't get the pússy. Women these days, don't have standards when it comes to sex, especially if money is involved.

But Rizzputin, why would you want to fûck a woman who doesn't even respect you? Is the pússy really that good? Will your self-esteem and self-love allow you to give yourself (energy, semen) to a woman who blatantly disrespected you? Does her disrespectful self deserve it just because she has a hole between her legs?

Somehow you are right Sha.



Is it worth it?

CaveAdullam:

So, marriage is not as useless as you think.

You went the whole nine yards on this Cave

The rage phase of being redpill aware takes time, I believe with time the poster of the question will get over it.

As africans our laws doesn't take average men to the cleaners after a divorce.

This is where I see reasons with western men who says "the Juice ain't worth the Squeeze"

11. There's this hypocrisy men are now carrying around based on the revelation of female nature and psychology as if men themselves are innocents and saints. Meanwhile, we are all sides of the same coin; dress from the same material.

I'd argue you are referring to the MEN, most women find attractive and are viscerally aroused by...
- Bad boys
- High status men
- player

They are the ones most delusional women refer to with their "Men are Scum" slur

Not the nice low-income earner average joe when it comes to intersexual dynamics.

0neal:


You went the whole nine yards on this Cave

The rage phase of being redpill aware takes time, I believe with time the poster of the question will get over it.

Yope.

He's right with his questions though. And his thoughts are valid.

Logically speaking, no gain in marriage for a man save for his biological instinct to procreate and continue in the gene pool.

Since that's how nature has made men, so nothing to do about it. But to rise to the better side of life, become the best version of ourselves, and live life on our .

We shouldn't stop the logic there. Since logically speaking again, the end of life is death. To be candid: "We are just wasting time on earth." No need for all these struggles since death is inevitable.

However, what we do between birth and death is what makes life enjoyable. So, choose anything that makes more meaning and sense to you.

And marriage, despite its denigration, still remains a core institution for building a strong family and society. Until we get something better.

0neal:
As africans our laws doesn't take average men to the cleaners after a divorce.

This is where I see reasons with western men who says "the Juice ain't worth the Squeeze"

True.

But we won't also deny the fact that there exists a whole lots of bullshits happening in African marriage.

Globally, dating and relationships are a mess.

Both the global north and the global south have where they outweigh more and perform less than the other.

The bottom line is to stop the complaint and be on the defending side. Men should also enter attack mode. We can't adapt to rubbish.

0neal:

I'd argue you are referring to the MEN, most women find attractive and are viscerally aroused by...
- Bad boys
- High status men
- player

They are the ones most delusional women refer to with their "Men are Scum" slur

Not the nice low-income earner average joe when it comes to intersexual dynamics.

Average men and women lack an understanding of love. Ditto for the player and nice guy.

The player sees love and romance as a game of winners vs losers. So he devises ways to manipulate his opponent by promising love but later dumping her.

The nice guy opens his heart to genuinely love a woman but is ignorant that the woman is a manipulator who wants to lure him with the promise of affection and companionship to siphon his time and money.

All of them in that scenario lack an understanding of love.

This now brings us to the importance of vetting. If you understand love and know how to vet correctly, you'll be less affected by the sexual radioactive explosions.

Thanks.

Rizzputin:



You most likely didnt ask her out properly that's why she flaked. There is a correct order and process to ask out girls

Anyways, girls sometimes flake to test how the guy will respond. Just be chill and unphased about it


Hit her up tomorrow or Wednesday and just vibe with her... don't bring up the date. Don't over invest while texting her. Just keep it cool and fun

Do this tomorrow and Wednesday. Don't reply her on Thursday. Then vibe with her on Friday... and ask her out for the weekend

Ideally weekends aren't great times to ask out women but they sometimes work.

In summary... don't ask her out immediately. Vibe with her then ask her out again On a high note

I comment on ur post because I can see you are reasoning rationally and not full of ego.

Apart from what you highlighted above, some ladies are just too reserve and shy,they would just communicate to you that, they can't make it again without giving you reason, and the reason might be EXTRA genuine. Infact, lady that still informed you that she won't be able to make it again, still likes and respects you, what about girl that would tell you "ok/yes" in which you would wait at venue endlessly without showing up?

YOU NEVER WALK A GIRL TO ISLE, YET, YOU WANT HER TO BE OBEYING YOU LIKE HER SLAVE MASTER. Even wife declines husband requests and you can beat her for that.

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Boss what do you mean

By saying weekends aren't great times to ask a girl out

Rizzputin:



You most likely didnt ask her out properly that's why she flaked. There is a correct order and process to ask out girls

Anyways, girls sometimes flake to test how the guy will respond. Just be chill and unphased about it


Hit her up tomorrow or Wednesday and just vibe with her... don't bring up the date. Don't over invest while texting her. Just keep it cool and fun

Do this tomorrow and Wednesday. Don't reply her on Thursday. Then vibe with her on Friday... and ask her out for the weekend

Ideally weekends aren't great times to ask out women but they sometimes work.

In summary... don't ask her out immediately. Vibe with her then ask her out again On a high note

Women are naturally redpilled. Don’t be a oneits man, that way you won’t understand their true nature. At least, experience being with two or three, before ending up with one. This way, you come out a winner.
Many men are simps out there bro. Smh

Kaido:
I recently got to know this young lady. Asked her to me this weekend for a drink, she was happy but days later, she told me something came up. Well I did have a good time on my own.

Is it necessarily asking her out for a drink again? I don't wanna cuz e go make me look desperate. i just wan knack her dey go. 😒

Yah! Sure! Beg her. Send her some money too. Watch how she crawls to u

emmaodet:
While there has been a lot of discussion about the word "Love", the back and forths, honestly i have my reservation about it.
Simply because LOVE will fail you when you need it MOST.
The best time when we need love most is when we are at our lowest point in life - jobless, hopeless, futureless, everything LESS when we need a shoulder to lean on, someone to give us a reassurance and encouragement to keep moving on in life despite all the odds against us.
Moments when we don't even believe in ourselves anymore but someone is there giving us hope and encouragement.
It is at this wit-end, unfortunately that LOVE will fail you most. So i actually don't really believe in that Love ideology. This is my personal view and not imposed on anyone.
It is at this lowest point that your woman will start misbehaving, flirting with other men, even cheating, giving cold attitudes, insultive, confrontational and bold with it.

Word of wisdom

Recipe for man's destruction.
Deep, deep insightful thoughts for every man.

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