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How Come Jesus Died To Humans If He’s God? Is Your God Really That Weak? - Christianity Etc (4) - Nairaland 25273o

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ichuka(m): 6:19pm On Jun 04
MaxInDHouse:

What Jesus COMMANDED! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8
Why do you people don't feel remorseful when lying? embarassed

Where you there when He gave the command?
Why then will He tell them also to wait for the Holy Spirit to lead them?
John 14:26...But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and remind you of all that I said to you.
MaxInDHouse(m): 6:28pm On Jun 04
ichuka:

Where you there when He gave the command?
Why then will He tell them also to wait for the Holy Spirit to lead them?
John 14:26...But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and remind you of all that I said to you.

Just ask what you don't understand!

Jesus is the head of his church but since he must leave the headship in the hands of imperfect humans he told them that God's Holy Spirit will ANOINT those who will take the lead in this work so they have to be BAPTIZED in the Holy Spirit just as Jesus was BAPTIZED and became the first BORN AGAIN preacher! Act 1:8

It's after they are baptized with God's Holy Spirit that they can be bold as in fearless to preach and teach! Act 4:24-31

So the Holy Spirit will continue to TEACH this little group how to guide the flock of God not that the spirit will start telling each Christian contradicting things o! smiley
ichuka(m): 8:20pm On Jun 04
MaxInDHouse:


Just ask what you don't understand!

Jesus is the head of his church but since he must leave the headship in the hands of imperfect humans he told them that God's Holy Spirit will ANOINT those who will take the lead in this work so they have to be BAPTIZED in the Holy Spirit just as Jesus was BAPTIZED and became the first BORN AGAIN preacher! Act 1:8

It's after they are baptized with God's Holy Spirit that they can be bold as in fearless to preach and teach! Act 4:24-31

So the Holy Spirit will continue to TEACH this little group how to guide the flock of God not that the spirit will start telling each Christian contradicting things o! smiley
Lol
I don't do cherry picking,if not eeeh😭
Any group of brothers proclaiming christains with out been lead by the Holy Spirit are all BIG TIME WASTERS PERIOD.
These is dispensation of the Holy Spirit.
Dude, try and explore it through the bible
MaxInDHouse(m): 9:30pm On Jun 04
ichuka:

Lol
I don't do cherry picking,if not eeeh😭
Any group of brothers proclaiming christains with out been lead by the Holy Spirit are all BIG TIME WASTERS PERIOD.
These is dispensation of the Holy Spirit.
Dude, try and explore it through the bible
You don't believe the Bible rather it's the lying spirit so stick to your spirit i'm OK with my Bible! smiley
ichuka(m): 4:37pm On Jun 05
MaxInDHouse:

You don't believe the Bible rather it's the lying spirit so stick to your spirit i'm OK with my Bible! smiley
So you believe a book more than the author
😂
Maximus692(m): 4:56pm On Jun 05
ichuka:

So you believe a book more than the author 😂
You think a lying spirit is the author of the Bible shey? smiley
ichuka(m): 7:02pm On Jun 05
Maximus692:

You think a lying spirit is the author of the Bible shey? smiley
So the Holy Spirit is a lying Spirit about?
MaxInDHouse(m): 7:10pm On Jun 05
ichuka:

So the Holy Spirit is a lying Spirit about?
You call a demon whatever you wish as long as it's not achieving the fruitage of God's Holy Spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} you are deceiving yourself! smiley
ichuka(m): 12:00am On Jun 06
MaxInDHouse:

You call a demon whatever you wish as long as it's not achieving the fruitage of God's Holy Spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} you are deceiving yourself! smiley
Dude who inspired men to write the bible?
MaxInDHouse(m): 6:12am On Jun 06
ichuka:

Dude who inspired men to write the bible?
Lots of lying spirits {Revelations 16:14} and they disguise! 2Corinthians 11:14

So that's why we have to test all spirits! 1John 4:1
ichuka(m): 10:01am On Jun 06
MaxInDHouse:

Lots of lying spirits {Revelations 16:14} and they disguise! 2Corinthians 11:14

So that's why we have to test all spirits! 1John 4:1
So lying Spirits wrote the bible? Are you for real?
That's blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.presume you know the consequences?
Lying against the author of the bible.
MaxInDHouse(m): 12:08pm On Jun 06
ichuka:

So lying Spirits wrote the bible? Are you for real? That's blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.presume you know the consequences? Lying against the author of the bible.
Guy, humans wrote the Bible not a spirit God inspired these writers with His spirit {2Timothy 3:16} and guides those taking the lead in God's organization to all truth in the book {John 14:26} making it possible for peace to reign among us {John 14:27} but there are lying spirits misleading you guys with different meaning that's why you people keep contradicting yourselves.
Can you mention the name of your church?
NO! Because there is no single church out there having one spirit like Jehovah's Witnesses! John 17:22
In God's organization we have just one spirit it's not guiding each member to interpret rather it's guiding only those taking the lead {Hebrews 13:7,17} so that we can all have the same line of thought! 1Corinthans 1:10

Ọmọ all these things your level you can only mimick what your pastors read in the Bible you can't correlate it skillfully like a real disciple of Christ! 2Timothy 2:15 smiley
ichuka(m): 1:18pm On Jun 06
MaxInDHouse:

Guy, humans wrote the Bible not a spirit God inspired these writers with His spirit {2Timothy 3:16} and guides those taking the lead in God's organization to all truth in the book {John 14:26} making it possible for peace to reign among us {John 14:27} but there are lying spirits misleading you guys with different meaning that's why you people keep contradicting yourselves.
Can you mention the name of your church?
NO! Because there is no single church out there having one spirit like Jehovah's Witnesses! John 17:22
In God's organization we have just one spirit it's not guiding each member to interpret rather it's guiding only those taking the lead {Hebrews 13:7,17} so that we can all have the same line of thought! 1Corinthans 1:10

Ọmọ all these things your level you can only mimick what your pastors read in the Bible you can't correlate it skillfully like a real disciple of Christ! 2Timothy 2:15 smiley
I don't do church things, told you before.
Seems Ur JW and most of these so called churches are the same.
Acting like an intermediary system among christains.liken to the old testament.
God will be at the right side, the people of God at the left side, then the pastor, bishop,go, elders will be at the middle acting as an intermediary between God and His people.
John4:21Jesus *said to her, “Believe Me, woman, that [f]a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, because salvation is from the Jews. 23But [g]a time is coming, and [h]even now has arrived, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be [i]His worshipers. 24God is [j]spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
MaxInDHouse(m): 3:26pm On Jun 06
ichuka:

I don't do church things, told you before.
Seems Ur JW and most of these so called churches are the same.
Acting like an intermediary system among christains.liken to the old testament.
God will be at the right side, the people of God at the left side, then the pastor, bishop,go, elders will be at the middle acting as an intermediary between God and His people.
John4:21Jesus *said to her, “Believe Me, woman, that [f]a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, because salvation is from the Jews. 23But [g]a time is coming, and [h]even now has arrived, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be [i]His worshipers. 24God is [j]spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

You don't even know the meaning of "WORSHIP" yet you want to argue about God's word.

Dude, if you don't associate with people in worship then Jesus has no business with you, that's why he said:

"For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.” Matthew 18:20

This two or three is not about you and your nuclear family o it means two to three sets of families at least preparing for the work Jesus assigned to his disciples which is preaching and teaching in your neighborhood {Matthew 10:11-13} that's the only thing that can attract Jesus as a spirit chair person to the gathering but when only you and your family are praying that is not the type of gathering Jesus is talking about that's praying only for the needs of your nuclear family it has no business with the assignment Jesus gave to his disciples!

So i ask you again:

As Christians how many disciples have you and your church baptized for the work Jesus assigned to his disciples? Matthew 28:19 smiley
Amudeneogu: 5:07pm On Jun 06
noobaland30:
How come Jesus died to humans if he’s God? Wouldn’t he conquer everything in his path if he was truly God and never died?
He died for you and I to live, he died because of the sins of the world
You and I have sinned and cut short of the glory of God, then he choose to died to clean our sin instead of you and I and he rose from the dead after three days.
ichuka(m): 5:18pm On Jun 06
MaxInDHouse:


You don't even know the meaning of "WORSHIP" yet you want to argue about God's word.

Dude, if you don't associate with people in worship then Jesus has no business with you, that's why he said:

"For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.” Matthew 18:20

This two or three is not about you and your nuclear family o it means two to three sets of families at least preparing for the work Jesus assigned to his disciples which is preaching and teaching in your neighborhood {Matthew 10:11-13} that's the only thing that can attract Jesus as a spirit chair person to the gathering but when only you and your family are praying that is not the type of gathering Jesus is talking about that's praying only for the needs of your nuclear family it has no business with the assignment Jesus gave to his disciples!

So i ask you again:

As Christians how many disciples have you and your church baptized for the work Jesus assigned to his disciples? Matthew 28:19 smiley
Dude
What's the fruit or result of Ur discipleship for decades?
What's the impart of Ur discipleship and preaching to Ur locality, state and country?
Preaching with out been lead by Holy Spirit is a complete waste of time.
Because it's the works of the Flesh.
Can you compare your preaching and discipleship to that of the day of Pentecost?
When the Holy Spirit converted over 4k people after the preaching of Peter.
We should stop dicieving ourselves.
Do you know the meaning of the church?
For the same way Adam did not accept any other thing except what came out of him to be his wife.likewise Christ will only accept His Spirit in every christains to be His wife or church.
Dude
These is the dispensation of the Holy Spirit and He must lead not some pastors or elders
MaxInDHouse(m): 7:32pm On Jun 06
ichuka:

Dude
What's the fruit or result of Ur discipleship for decades?
What's the impart of Ur discipleship and preaching to Ur locality, state and country?

With my discipleship and the effort put in together in my church hundreds of thousands in Nigeria have been baptized as true disciples of the Prince of Peace {Act 1:8} this means they will never ever raise weapons against their neighbors or fellow believers again just as God's word foretold regarding our time! Isaiah 2:2-4

Now what is the fruit of your church?
ichuka(m): 8:10pm On Jun 06
MaxInDHouse:


With my discipleship and the effort put in together in my church hundreds of thousands in Nigeria have been baptized as true disciples of the Prince of Peace {Act 1:8} this means they will never ever raise weapons against their neighbors or fellow believers again just as God's word foretold regarding our time! Isaiah 2:2-4

Now what is the fruit of your church?
All these ceremonial baptism has no effect to our faith in Christ jesus.its just an affirmation of what we already believe in Him.
Roms6:3...3Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too may walk in newness of life. 5For if we have become [b]united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be [c]in the likeness of His resurrection, 6knowing this, that our old [d]self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be [e]done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; 7for the one who has died is [f]freed from sin.

8Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, [g]is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him. 10For [h]the death that He died, He died to sin once for all time; but [i]the life that He lives, He lives to [j]God. 11So you too, consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Physical baptism has nothing to do with our faith
MaxInDHouse(m): 8:43pm On Jun 06
ichuka:

All these ceremonial baptism has no effect to our faith in Christ jesus.its just an affirmation of what we already believe in Him.
Roms6:3...3Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too may walk in newness of life. 5For if we have become [b]united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be [c]in the likeness of His resurrection, 6knowing this, that our old [d]self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be [e]done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; 7for the one who has died is [f]freed from sin.

8Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, [g]is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him. 10For [h]the death that He died, He died to sin once for all time; but [i]the life that He lives, He lives to [j]God. 11So you too, consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Physical baptism has nothing to do with our faith
Go and worship with those who don't believe in physical baptism i believe John and Jesus knew what they did! wink
ichuka(m): 8:56pm On Jun 06
MaxInDHouse:

Go and worship with those who don't believe in physical baptism i believe John and Jesus knew what they did! wink
So you don't believe and understand Ur bible teaching again
MaxInDHouse(m): 9:05pm On Jun 06
ichuka:

So you don't believe and understand Ur bible teaching again
Baptism is the first step into faith in Christ Jesus so if you don't believe in baptism you are not a believer in Christ! wink
ichuka(m): 10:14pm On Jun 06
MaxInDHouse:

Baptism is the first step into faith in Christ Jesus so if you don't believe in baptism you are not a believer in Christ! wink
So the criminal on the cross was also baptized before entering paradise abi?
MaxInDHouse(m): 5:11am On Jun 07
ichuka:

So the criminal on the cross was also baptized before entering paradise abi?
He had no opportunity to do so that's why Jesus promised him otherwise he doesn't need to be given such assurance if he ed Jesus' disciples and got baptized you can see what the Ethiopian eunuch did after his conviction he quickly asked Philip to baptize him as one of Jesus' disciples. Act 8:36-38

If Philip didn't preach baptism to him as part of the requirements of faith in Christ would he have asked to be baptized?
Peter also mentioned baptism to Jews who had him at Pentecost! Read Act 2:38
ichuka(m): 9:34am On Jun 07
MaxInDHouse:

He had no opportunity to do so that's why Jesus promised him otherwise he doesn't need to be given such assurance if he ed Jesus' disciples and got baptized you can see what the Ethiopian eunuch did after his conviction he quickly asked Philip to baptize him as one of Jesus' disciples. Act 8:36-38

If Philip didn't preach baptism to him as part of the requirements of faith in Christ would he have asked to be baptized?
Peter also mentioned baptism to Jews who had him at Pentecost! Read Act 2:38
Dude
Anyone that believes in Jesus Christ has been baptized period.
The ceremonial thing is an affirmation of what and who we are in Christ Jesus.
MaxInDHouse(m): 10:43am On Jun 07
ichuka:

Dude
Anyone that believes in Jesus Christ has been baptized period.
The ceremonial thing is an affirmation of what and who we are in Christ Jesus.
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni Jesus COMMANDED us to baptize and be baptized! smiley
ichuka(m): 10:57am On Jun 07
MaxInDHouse:

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni Jesus COMMANDED us to baptize and be baptized! smiley
That's why I said you need the Holy Spirit directives to understand the bible not some elders or pastors.
Romans6:3....
Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?
Do you even understand these simple verse?
MaxInDHouse(m): 11:19am On Jun 07
ichuka:

That's why I said you need the Holy Spirit directives to understand the bible not some elders or pastors.
Romans6:3....
Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?
Do you even understand these simple verse?
What is the PRACTICAL BENEFITS of this your spirit?
Because you are fond of mentioning it anytime you want to lie! cheesy/
ichuka(m): 3:41pm On Jun 07
MaxInDHouse:

What is the PRACTICAL BENEFITS of this your spirit?
Because you are fond of mentioning it anytime you want to lie! cheesy/
So the Holy Spirit is now a lying Spirit to you
He's in charge of these dispensation.
MaxInDHouse(m): 4:36pm On Jun 07
ichuka:

So the Holy Spirit is now a lying Spirit to you. He's in charge of these dispensation.
Please which of the countless religions claiming churches is this your so called "SPIRIT" working with?
Because there is contradictions among them all!cheesy
ichuka(m): 7:03pm On Jun 07
MaxInDHouse:

Please which of the countless religions claiming churches is this your so called "SPIRIT" working with?
Because there is contradictions among them all!cheesy
So you don't believe Ur bible or leader again abi
U are looking for churches and spirits right?
MaxInDHouse(m): 7:12pm On Jun 07
ichuka:

So you don't believe Ur bible or leader again abi
U are looking for churches and spirits right?

My Bible says it's in the gathering of God's people that His spirit dwells and the leaders of my church are Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Now mention the name of your own church so we can examine the spirit that you are talking about:

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. ‭1 John 4:1 NIV‬



How can we TEST YOUR SPIRIT to know it's not from Satan? cheesy
ichuka(m): 9:31pm On Jun 07
MaxInDHouse:


My Bible says it's in the gathering of God's people that His spirit dwells and the leaders of my church are Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Now mention the name of your own church so we can examine the spirit that you are talking about:

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. ‭1 John 4:1 NIV‬



How can we TEST YOUR SPIRIT to know it's not from Satan? cheesy

After the Pentecost, does the apostle s and disciples have any governing body called Jehovah witness or is there a name given to a particular church they attend?

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