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StillDtruth:
Ask Proverbs 15:29

Answer my questions first.

Ojuntana:

The biggest Zombies are those who believed a caravan robber who took his adopted son's wife is a prophet and they'll get 72 virgins in heaven with an erect penis of they kill themselves for him.

Where is the morality and holiness in snatching your son's wife and robbing innocent traders

na wetin!!!

immortalcrown:
If God seeing everywhere is not the same as God being everywhere, then there is a difference between the two. What is that difference?

God's presence is his aura, glory and power. In Exodus 34, when God showed himself to Moses, he had to bow down. Same happened to Jacob in Genesis 28. The presence of God is manifested by his aura and glory. Same with Moses and the burning Bush. So the difference is in the aura and glory. When God's glory departs, everything becomes subject to the manipulation of the devil. There's no vision nor direction from God in such circumstance. 1 Samuel 3

Elisha is not God. Use God himself to show the difference. What can God not do when he is not in a place and only sees the place?

It is wrong for you to use Elisha's case as the difference. You are not in the same place with me and cannot see me. But through God's revelation to you, you can see my environment and my actions. This is what happened in the case of Elisha. For Elisha to know what happened where he was absent, he depended on God that is everywhere. If God is not everywhere, who does God depend on to see everywhere?

Elisha is a servant of God. All his abilities were derived from the power of God in him. Are you saying you have to be somewhere to know what happened there in this age of technology? If humans have means to know what they did not witness how much more God the source of all wisdom and knowledge?

Jesus being forsaken by God means Jesus suffering the pain that God could prevent. It does not mean that God became absent in Jesus or that Jesus became absent in God. Was there ever a time that God and Jesus became absent in each other?

Do you mean God was on the cross with Jesus? Well that's not biblical. God forsook Jesus on the cross.

That Moses asked God to go with them means they wanted God to give them victory in the journey. It does not mean that God was absent in their lives. Failure in a task does not mean the absence of God. that the Israelites had crossed the sea before Pharaoh got destroyed in the sea. If God left Pharaoh and followed only the Israelites, who located and destroyed Pharaoh in the sea? Or, did Pharaoh also asked God to go with Pharaoh?

I don't understand you in this instance. Do you mean Moses was asking for victory when he was asking for God's presence to go with them? And God replied him, "My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest (not victory). As it is, I don't know how you expect people who got drowned in the red sea to survive though

Ojuntana:
God's presence is his aura, glory and power. In Exodus 34, when God showed himself to Moses, he had to bow down. Same happened to Jacob in Genesis 28. The presence of God is manifested by his aura and glory. Same with Moses and the burning Bush. So the difference is in the aura and glory. When God's glory departs, everything becomes subject to the manipulation of the devil. There's no vision nor direction from God in such circumstance. 1 Samuel 3


Elisha is a servant of God. All his abilities were derived from the power of God in him. Are you saying you have to be somewhere to know what happened there in this age of technology? If humans have means to know what they did not witness how much more God the source of all wisdom and knowledge?

Do you mean God was on the cross with Jesus? Well that's not biblical. God forsook Jesus on the cross.

I don't understand you in this instance. Do you mean Moses was asking for victory when he was asking for God's presence to go with them? And God replied him, "My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest (not victory). As it is, I don't know how you expect people who got drowned in the red sea to survive though

You have not answered my questions.

1.
If God seeing everywhere is not the same as God being everywhere, then there is a difference between the two. What is that difference?

2.
Elisha is not God. Use God himself to show the difference. What can God not do when he is not in a place and only sees the place?

3.
It is wrong for you to use Elisha's case as the difference. You are not in the same place with me and cannot see me. But through God's revelation to you, you can see my environment and my actions. This is what happened in the case of Elisha. For Elisha to know what happened where he was absent, he depended on God that is everywhere. If God is not everywhere, who does God depend on to see everywhere?

immortalcrown:
You have not answered my questions.

1.
If God seeing everywhere is not the same as God being everywhere, then there is a difference between the two. What is that difference?

2.
Elisha is not God. Use God himself to show the difference. What can God not do when he is not in a place and only sees the place?

3.
It is wrong for you to use Elisha's case as the difference. You are not in the same place with me and cannot see me. But through God's revelation to you, you can see my environment and my actions. This is what happened in the case of Elisha. For Elisha to know what happened where he was absent, he depended on God that is everywhere. If God is not everywhere, who does God depend on to see everywhere?

I already answered all these questions. You are to devote yourself to reading my responses properly and get understanding.
God bless you as you do so

Ojuntana:
I already answered all these questions. You are to devote yourself to reading my responses properly and get understanding.
God bless you as you do so

You have not answered the questions.

immortalcrown:
You have not answered the questions.

I did sir

Ojuntana:
God's presence is his aura, glory and power. In Exodus 34, when God showed himself to Moses, he had to bow down. Same happened to Jacob in Genesis 28. The presence of God is manifested by his aura and glory. Same with Moses and the burning Bush. So the difference is in the aura and glory. When God's glory departs, everything becomes subject to the manipulation of the devil. There's no vision nor direction from God in such circumstance. 1 Samuel 3


Elisha is a servant of God. All his abilities were derived from the power of God in him. Are you saying you have to be somewhere to know what happened there in this age of technology? If humans have means to know what they did not witness how much more God the source of all wisdom and knowledge?

Do you mean God was on the cross with Jesus? Well that's not biblical. God forsook Jesus on the cross.

I don't understand you in this instance. Do you mean Moses was asking for victory when he was asking for God's presence to go with them? And God replied him, "My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest (not victory). As it is, I don't know how you expect people who got drowned in the red sea to survive though

Ojuntana:
I did sir

You have not mentioned the difference between when God only sees a place and when God is in the place.

immortalcrown:
You have not mentioned the difference between when God only sees a place and when God is in the place.

I did sir

Ojuntana:
God's presence is his aura, glory and power. In Exodus 34, when God showed himself to Moses, he had to bow down. Same happened to Jacob in Genesis 28. The presence of God is manifested by his aura and glory. Same with Moses and the burning Bush. So the difference is in the aura and glory. When God's glory departs, everything becomes subject to the manipulation of the devil. There's no vision nor direction from God in such circumstance. 1 Samuel 3

Ojuntana:
I did sir. God's presence is his aura, glory and power. In Exodus 34, when God showed himself to Moses, he had to bow down. Same happened to Jacob in Genesis 28. The presence of God is manifested by his aura and glory. Same with Moses and the burning Bush. So the difference is in the aura and glory. When God's glory departs, everything becomes subject to the manipulation of the devil. There's no vision nor direction from God in such circumstance. 1 Samuel 3

1.
So, where did God depart to before Lucifer went against God?

2.
How is God able to see where he is not?

immortalcrown:
So, where did God depart to before Lucifer went against God?

What has that got to do with the conversation?

He is able to see where he is not because he is all knowing. He knows the beginning to the end of everything

cutecommend:
Almost every Sunday, people go to church to worship God. Many go prepared and properly dressed. In some of these churches, there are exciting and nice activities that keep excited, but even with the excitements, God is not really there.
As you keep attending church, that you are responsible for your soul, and you need to make the right decision on the kind of church you are going to so that you may not damn your soul.

Signs You are Attending a Dead or Dying Church.

(1) If true Holiness Message and solid doctrine is irritating, boring and unexciting to its . But dancing, jumping, comedy, shouting wooo etc are more preferred to sound doctrine.

(2) If seductive and indecent dressing is highly tolerated, and some of the guys in church department plait hair.

(3) If are ashamed to hold bible (physical bible) on the road while going to church.

(4) If comedians are coming to the pulpit to jest and tell lies to make people laugh.

(5) If such church makes you live comfortably in sin, while using grace message to make you feel alright even in sin.

(6) If prayers for repentance, consecration, fruits of the spirit, sanctification, purification, character development is put aside, while prayers for vision, prosperity, impact, taking territories, getting visa, going to the next levels, goals, purpose etc is emphasized more.

(7) If such church makes you have no thought or little awareness of the coming of Christ.

Deeper life, Babalola, CAC and it likes originated these fake doctrines from the Yoruba culture and mentality are all deceiving you people with all these fake stories to undermine other churches and their ways of conducts which do not conform to your culture?

Is it by force that you must use your culture to choke people who do not really want it?

StillDtruth:


Tell them!

Wow!

So you are a brainwashed stupid deeper lifer ?
No wonder your mumu dey drawl dey smell follow you everywhere you go

Ojuntana:
What has that got to do with the conversation?

He is able to see where he is not because he is all knowing. He knows the beginning to the end of everything

Continue to misinterpret the scripture. The makes it clear that God fills heaven and earth.

paxonel:

Wow!

So you are a brainwashed stupid deeper lifer ?
No wonder your mumu dey drawl dey smell follow you everywhere you go

See fool no know say hin dey talk about hinself as hin be. So you dey find person wey go you.

paxonel:

Deeper life, Babalola, CAC and it likes originated these fake doctrines from the Yoruba culture and mentality are all deceiving you people with all these fake stories to undermine other churches and their ways of conducts which do not conform to your culture?

Is it by force that you must use your culture to choke people who do not really want it?

See devil screaming that this guy is burning your wishes for riches and visa hahahahahahahahaha

You will still never prosper even if you go Deeper and Cac and babalawo. Hahahahahahahaha.

StillDtruth:


See fool no know say hin dey talk about hinself as hin be. So you dey find person wey go you.

Bloody deeper life ideology proper corrupting the country over the years with your stupid unrealistic doctrines making the religious nation to become confused people.

I talk am say una nor well

People like you, I'm very sure say na your mama still dey feed you for house at your age.
Na hungry go quench you for this one were you dey so

immortalcrown:
Continue to misinterpret the scripture. The makes it clear that God fills heaven and earth.

Go and read Jeremiah 23 in full so you can get full understanding

AntiChristian:


He attended the Prophet's mosque that is in Madina today and the one in Kaaba!

So which one Jesus attend?

Taqiyya will not kill you. Which mosque is in Kaaba
The Kaaba is a shrine for idols
You ignorant hypocrites stole a shrine and now label it a mosque
Is there any islamists cannot steal?

paxonel:

Wow!

So you are a brainwashed stupid deeper lifer ?
No wonder your mumu dey drawl dey smell follow you everywhere you go

so oga stilltruth na deeper life na in he dey attend

Kingsempires:
so oga stilltruth na deeper life na in he dey attend

Deeper life or no deeper life, his ideology is the same with them

paxonel:

Deeper life or no deeper life, his ideology is the same with them

hmm!!! Okoo

paxonel:

Bloody deeper life ideology proper corrupting the country over the years with your stupid unrealistic doctrines making the religious nation to become confused people.

I talk am say una nor well

People like you, I'm very sure say na your mama still dey feed you for house at your age.
Na hungry go quench you for this one were you dey so

See am, sinfullness, poorverty and failure don make you mad. Clearly these are things you are guilty of and the op just reminded you that you are going to hellfire which is why you are screaming like a demon.

StillDtruth:


See am, sinfullness, poorverty and failure don make you mad. Clearly these are things you are guilty of and the op just reminded you that you are going to hellfire which is why you are screaming like a demon.

Are you God


mat 7:1-5

Kingsempires:
Are you God

mat 7:1-5

The bible has shown us God's Mind and Plans

Precise Examination

Ojuntana:

Go and read your Bible properly. God is not everywhere. God sees everything and knows everything but his presence is not everywhere. God does not inhabit a place where there is sin or unholiness.

Can you even tell how the bible came about?

I bet you can’t and don’t even know how.

cutecommend:
Almost every Sunday].

This is wrong. @Seun you are biased.

All your points stink of religious dogma and ignorance of the Bible.

I took it upon myself to attend every church I have heard of including, CCC, Cherubim, Ekankar, Catholic etc.

God is everywhere!

The key point to show a believer is a follower of Christ is a change in character from wickedness to Christ-like behaviours......

Forget all these Balablue you are saying

I am pretty sure that there are many more things that should have been added to the list...

immortalcrown:
OP, read Psalm 139. Also, check Jeremiah 23:23-24. God's presence is one thing, people recognising and utilising the presence is another thing. Refusal to eat when food is available does not mean famine. Choosing to be naked when the wardrobe is stocked with clothes does not mean lack of clothes.

1.
God is everywhere, even in a bar, even where people are committing sins. Some of you think that God discriminates. That is why some of you think that God is not in your homes, and you consequently choose to sleep in the Church every night claiming that that is where you can find God. Even in your classroom, God is there. Even in your shop or office, God is not absent. Even in shrines, God is present.

2.
What is the meaning of "omnipresent"?. Stop claiming that God is not in some Churches. What you should say is that the majority in a Church may ignorantly or deliberately use certain behaviours to reject the benefits of God's presence.

3.
Church finding holiness message boring does not mean the absence of God. In fact, the message itself is a noticeable evidence of God's presence in the Church.

4.
All your points here are invalid. Even if the leader of a Church is a champion of sin, God is still in that Church, at least for the sake of innocent Children in the same Church. [sub][/sub]

Your soul is important. Make sure you do not go to hell.

Personally, once I enter a church or even watch at christian program, my spirit of desendment most activate by giving me serious and obvious goosebumps and it has never failed me...

If I don't feel the sparkles, I just quietly walk away and close my mouth shut..