NewStats: 3,263,183 , 8,179,348 topics. Date: Wednesday, 04 June 2025 at 11:57 PM 33p1c

Jandminded:


You have a point, most Nigerians doing all sort of Jobs in abroad wouldn't dare to do such in Nigeria.
But I think the major reason is because service is cheap in Nigeria, not that they wouldn't do it in Nigeria if the pay is encouraging.

Unemployment and limited opportunities are also a big factor.

Many actually wants to try in Nigeria, but to even get the job is a big problem.

I think it all depends on individual and their career path.

We can say, for example, cleaning homes is cheap in Nigeria. But there are ppl in Lagos making a fortune with professional cleaning companies. We can say washing cars is cheap, but again, millions can be made if done right.
The difference is, many will not even consider doing this in Nigeria, but will go abroad and start their cleaning company and their car wash. In NIgeria nobody wants to be seen working. It's the strangest thing. A person who is idle earning nothing will still see themselves superior to a bricklayer. But today, bricklayers (at least in my hometown) are making good money and have consistent work. The amount of money and effort it would take to even make a brick company in the UK will k*ll a man. Meanwhile, in Nigeria, it can be easily done and will earn you a lot.

Jandminded:


Well, I guess the struggle in abroad is still better than the one in Nigeria.

My guy that couldn't afford expense of 200k in Nigeria travelled, he's complaining that things aren't as people think.
But he's sent his family more than 500k the first year, and even bought a small ride...
Which he wouldn't be able to afford when he was in Nigeria.
Overall, the struggle in abroad is better than being broke in Nigeria

I think you're correct but I slightly disagree. I'm not saying the west isn't better, I'm saying people who expect paradise usually struggle more. So in both places struggle exists but the reward in the west is higher than Nigeria.

And i say the west specifically. Most other country are the same thing as Nigeria and whatever you make in Estonia, or Peru you can make in NIgeria. The reason i slightly disagree is I think NIgerians are willing to work harder and do more difficult work abroad than at home. Once Nigerians leave Nigeria they are willing to do all jobs, but at home they will refuse 9/10 jobs because they think it's beneath them. They will then, while refusing to work, complain about Nigeria. So for many, they have not even tried to succeed in Nigeria. But abroad they are trying. So the result you're seeing is the result of someone who has applied themselves, rather than the location.

If you apply your self in the west and apply yourself in Nigeria, you will get higher results in the west. There are Nigerians doing house cleaning in Iraq. Something they will refuse to do in Nigeria. They will make money in Iraq and declare Iraq is better than Nigeria which is not true. I have an uncle who became a millionaire cleaning oil equipment in Nigeria, but he was willing to try.

Jandminded:


It depends on your career path or medium of hustle.
The richest abroad based people in my community are Asian men

the nigerians that came 1980 1990s were focused on education like asian. The new ones are not, so they're struggling more. But eventually everyone finds their way,

Ezewuzie01:
Many years ago, Enugu was ahead of Lagos in southern Nigeria's movie industry. Actors swarmed the town as the industry boomed there. However over time a major challenge emerged that drove the industry elsewhere. Water! Yes, water. So terrible was the lack of water in that town that actors could barely bathe as many hotels had to book for three days advance for water tankers to bring water all the way from far flunged places like Oji river near the Anambra boundary. Eventually the Onitsha-based marketers had to relocate the industry to nearby Asaba as the water crisis in Enugu became unbearable.

Peter Mbah of Enugu state is still beating around the bush with cosmetic projects as Enugu continues to suffer lack of water while its people flee to neighbouring states.

why didn't they move it to Onitsha then?

Gbogboski:
This flyover is not flying over

haha. jump over

Jandminded:


I have someone in Canada, and he's complaining the same thing.
Everybody thinks it's greener somewhere else.

To be among the rich will always be hard anywhere, even if you are in heaven.

many think all the problems of the world only exist in Nigeria, so this is common. But, Canada and US are more open to opportunity than anywhere in Europe. But in all places, you will struggle.

UK is a decaying former power. In 20 Years Nigeria will sur it in GDP.
But even when that happens, Nigerians will still believe the UK is where they will find wealth.

I'm not against japa though, but Europe is a place to be comfortable and minimalisitic. The people there are not doing as well as people assume. US and Canada are the best possible options, but someone who a strong mind will thrive anywhere.

El Rufai is the most hateful creature in history

Ttalk:


Is Dangote a multinational? The way some people reason eh

Yes. Are you ok?

Kemetian:


Free trade zones can work for the local economy if the government stipulates that a certain percentage of slots will be allocated to indigenous firms. At least 50% in my view.

all of these bantustan economic policies have been scamming 3rd world countries for 40 years now and they don't work. None of them work. Why would you allocate slots to indigenous firms?

Free trade zones don't work
'New Cities' don't work
'foreign investment' doesn't work.

So when all the indigenous firms move there and pay no taxes, what happens to the places they used to be? What happens to the tax revenue they used to pay? Businesses have convinced corrupt african leaders that the business is benefiting the country more than the country is benefitting the business. That is nonsense.


Why do check to see what the indigenous firms need to grow and make it available? Nothing is gained from losing tax revenue.

look at the Jonathan ppl were complaining about.
And Tinubu was the one leading the protest. chie

Free trade zones are a scam western multinationals sold dumber, poorer countries. They want to make their money without taxes so that nobody benefits from their presence except the multinational. Then, the leader (usually corrupt) will tell the people they should be grateful the company is there. So you have a free trade zone where a multinational makes 1billion USD a year. No tax, but they will say '700 jobs were created' '2000 jobs were created'. The more jobs the more they underpay, the less jobs the more they higher their own foreign people.

Ojiofor:


He might become the next governor of Imo state.LOL.

it's like a curse. I think he's from Anambra though

mandax:

Due to political underrepresentation of the
people in the southeast and the denied federal allocations and development projects arising from the five states only political structure in the southeast, the southeast deserves a sixth state. They don't use land mass as yardstick to create new states.

In Imo state, one zone holds nearly 95% of all govt establishments for Imo state. The zone should agree to redistribution of the govt establishments to Orlu and Okigwe zones before it starts to object to creating another state from Imo state.

and 95% of the governors of Imo have been Orlu zone, so everything nwere balance

Henix:
Anambra and Abia states suppose to be generating more than they are currently doing.

low tax rate for faster economic growth

Dangote has the 3rd largest refinery in the world. Why would he IMPORT the same petrol he makes and exports?

Owerri under Onitsha is crazy

damoobaba:


And what did your father turn your village to? What's his achievement in your village abi na asylum seeker for Lagos?

My father has built 3 schools 2 boreholes and a major community road. He is currently guiding as I renovate my first school, so 3.5.
Nke gi?

only failed leaders say things like this

this is going to be one of the buffoons that will make Nigeria a worst place to live in the future

CreativeOrbit:
Your assertion contains several sweeping generalizations and overlooks important historical, social, and structural factors. Let me address the key issues logically and with clarity:

1. On Islamic Scholarship in Nigeria:
While it's true that Nigerian scholars may not dominate global lists curated by Western-centric or Arab-centric sources, this does not equate to a lack of Islamic scholarship in Nigeria. Northern Nigeria has produced many respected scholars, such as Sheikh Usman dan Fodio, who led a major Islamic reform and educational movement, and more recently, scholars like Sheikh Ibrahim Saleh Al-Hussaini and Sheikh Abubakar Gumi, who are widely recognized in West Africa and beyond. The lack of representation on ChatGPT’s or any AI-generated list may reflect data limitations, linguistic biases, or uneven global recognition—not a lack of scholarly substance.

2. On the Role of Islam in the North:
The influence of Islam in northern Nigeria is not a function of aggression but of historical and cultural integration. Islam has been part of the region for over a millennium, with deep roots in education, governance, and social life. The preference for Islamic schools reflects communal values and identity rather than a rejection of knowledge.

3. On Western Education and Development:
The idea that rejecting Western education correlates with underdevelopment overlooks colonial legacies, systemic inequality, and the failure of successive governments to bridge educational gaps. It also ignores the nuanced reality that many northern Muslims do pursue formal education while also valuing religious instruction.

4. On Cattle Production:
Nigeria’s rank in cattle production is influenced by numerous factors—such as infrastructure, investment, disease control, and climate change. The stereotype that northerners “carry cows on their heads” is a gross simplification and unhelpful. The Fulani and other pastoral communities contribute significantly to Nigeria’s livestock economy, but face systemic neglect, security challenges, and environmental threats that hamper productivity.

5. On Tone and Respect:
The tone of your statement leans heavily on sarcasm and derision, which undermines constructive dialogue. Critique should not descend into mockery or demeaning cultural expressions. If the goal is progress, then discourse must be rooted in mutual respect and a willingness to understand the context of others.

Islamic Scholarship
There are 0 major works of islamic thought from Northern Nigeria. This is despite the massive population AND even greater effort put into islamic education in the north. There is visible leadership by southern Nigerian religious leaders in christianity. They were known the world over, their churches are spreading everywhere, they publish major religious works. They are known internationally in gospel music, etc. Any endevour of the christian world and christian thought, southern Nigerians are there. And they governments in southern Nigeria don't put the effort into christianity that the north puts into Islam.

If you look at all of the places the north is behind in, people will say it's because their main focus is Islam. But even in that main focus, they're nobody. Is Gumi recognized in west africa and beyond? Because in the news this week they threw him out of Saudi Arabia like a common criminal.

Western Education And Development
You don't think Islam is also a part of colonialism? Anything tied to colonialism that is blocking the North from excelling in Western education, should also block them from Islamic education. I think it's strange that african muslims tend to think Islam is their actual native culture and way of life. It is foreign and it was forced on you and is still being forced. The excuse doesn't stand.

Cattle Production
Between 2016 and 2020, 3,641 Nigerians were killed per year by cattle herdsmen. To find out that Nigeria loses 3,000+ human lives every year because of cows, but Nigeria is also failing in cow production, has a low cattle count, has unhealthy low protein cows after all this bloodshed is pathetic. Fulani are, without question, the lowest in cattle production of all herdsmen world wide. Go look at Kenyan nomad cows, Dinka nomad cows, south african nomad cows, and go look at our cows. In 2023 Nigeria IMPORTED 151,636 kilograms of beef.




With the energy the Hausa put into Islam, they are nobody among muslims, and the energy Fulani put into cows they are nobody among herdsmen or cattle rearers. They are infact failures in both regards. They not considered good muslims nor are they considered good herdsmen. In the South, people are focused on scholarship, christianity, business, and even entertainment. Southern Nigerians are excelling world wide in scholarship, Christianity, Business and Entertainment. They are competing with everyone in the world.

Somebody will see his fellow man and drop to his knees. Someone will see a pastor who is younger than him and begin calling him daddy.
There is a shameless homoerotic nature to how nigerian men are expected to show each other respect. And this idea of respect ends at nigerian men. No nigerian politician will except even a white brick layer to get on his knees or call him daddy. I don't even think they will expect this from a Ghanaian visiting them. Even me and as abroadian, they don't except it from me. But once they can smell you're a nigerian, you now have to start saying and doing gay things to show respect.

I'm sure some of you like this, but I think it's bizarre and seems more about sexual domination than actual respect.

AbujaLagos:
you can change it.

hopefully

Despite how much Nigerian muslims carry Islam on their head. Despite how it has to be infused in everything and how the north will only accept and islamic school. DESPITE RANKING HIGH in violent jihadism...northern nigerian or muslim Nigeria is no where to be seen in the list of top islamic scholars. I asked ChatGPT to produce a list of the top 50. I don't believe a Nigerian name will appear if I say top 200, but I can ask if anyone needs confirmation.


So I want to ask, why is it that despite carry cow and islam and their head with this vigor and aggression, Nigeria ranks low in cattle production, and ranks lower in islamic scholarship? I was even thinking that those who are rejecting western education are dominating islamically. Nope.


🕌 Contemporary Popular Islamic Scholars
🟢 Sunni Scholars
Sheikh Ahmad Al-Tayyeb – Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, Egypt

Sheikh Muhammad Taqi Usmani – Leading Islamic jurist from Pakistan

Sheikh Abdullah bin Bayyah – Mauritanian scholar of Islamic law and peacebuilding

Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi (d. 2022) – Influential Sunni scholar and theologian

Sheikh Abdul-Aziz Al ash-Sheikh – Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia

Sheikh Saleh al-Fawzan – Member of the Saudi Council of Senior Scholars

Sheikh Saad Al-Shathri – Saudi scholar, royal advisor

Sheikh Muhammad Al-Yaqoubi – Syrian scholar and Sufi master

Sheikh Habib Umar bin Hafiz – Yemeni scholar, spiritual guide, founder of Dar al-Mustafa

Sheikh Hamza Yusuf – American scholar, co-founder of Zaytuna College

Sheikh Abdal Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter) – British scholar and author

Sheikh Tariq Ramadan – Swiss academic and Islamic thinker

Mufti Menk (Ismail ibn Musa Menk) – Zimbabwean preacher, popular on social media

Nouman Ali Khan – American speaker, founder of Bayyinah Institute

Sheikh Yasir Qadhi – American scholar, Dean at The Islamic Seminary of America

Omar Suleiman – American imam, founder of Yaqeen Institute

Bilal Philips – Canadian scholar and founder of Islamic Online University

Imam Suhaib Webb – American scholar, speaker, and educator

Maulana Tariq Jamil – Pakistani preacher and scholar of Tablighi Jamaat

Mufti Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – British Hanafi scholar

Sheikh Zahir Mahmood – UK-based preacher and speaker

Dr. Ali Gomaa – Former Grand Mufti of Egypt

Shaykh Hasan Ali – UK-based scholar and teacher

Sheikh Imran Hosein – Trinidadian Islamic eschatologist and political commentator

Dr. Yasir Nadeem Al Wajidi – Indian-American scholar and teacher

🔴 Shia Scholars
Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani – Grand Ayatollah based in Najaf, Iraq

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei – Supreme Leader of Iran

Ayatollah Sayyed Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah (d. 2010) – Lebanese scholar

Ayatollah Sayyed Kamal al-Haydari – Iraqi scholar known for reformist views

Ayatollah Sayyed Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr (d. 1980) – Prominent Shia philosopher and jurist

⚪ Sufi/Spiritual Leaders
Sheikh Nazim al-Haqqani (d. 2014) – Naqshbandi Sufi master

Sheikh Hisham Kabbani – American Sufi scholar and spiritual leader

Al-Habib Ali al-Jifri – Yemeni Sufi scholar and preacher

Sheikh Mahmud Effendi (d. 2022) – Turkish Naqshbandi leader

Sheikh Mehmet Adil – Successor of Sheikh Nazim al-Haqqani

🟡 Academics & Thinkers
Seyyed Hossein Nasr – Iranian-American philosopher and professor

Dr. Sherman Jackson – African-American scholar of Islamic law and theology

Dr. Ingrid Mattson – Canadian-American scholar, former ISNA president

Dr. Amina Wadud – American scholar of gender and Qur'anic studies

Dr. Khaled Abou El Fadl – American jurist and professor at UCLA

Dr. Jonathan A. C. Brown – Professor at Georgetown, scholar of Hadith

🌍 Other Notables
Shaykh Nuh Ha Mim Keller – American scholar and translator of Islamic texts

Sheikh Muhammad Hassan – Egyptian scholar and TV preacher

Shaykh Salman al-Ouda – Prominent Saudi reformist scholar (imprisoned)

Sheikh Abu Eesa Niamatullah – British scholar and speaker

Shaykh Riad Ouarzazi – Moroccan-Canadian da’ee and motivational speaker

Shaykh Faraz Rabbani – Canadian scholar and founder of SeekersGuidance

Dr. Omar Farooq Abdullah – American convert and Islamic scholar

Shaykh Wasim Kempson – UK-based da’ee and Islamic teacher

Shaykh Ahmad Dabbagh – British-Pakistani spiritual teacher

the nigerian idea of respect is disgusting and a little gay

Trump humiliated himself, Ramaphosa held his own with decorum and grace, and debunked all their propaganda

byproduct of laziness

NaijaSky:
Why are African people losing interest in the Western system of government and economy?
So many reason. Bad leadership and lack of transparency.
Hypocritic of Western system and people.
Winner takes all democracy.
Lack of empathy for common people.
Extreme system of capitalism. No serious welfare for the masses.
What are the reasons

This nigga found American youtube videos.

ivandragon:


You are the one being sentimental and obviously has a poor understanding of what you are on about.

Fintech companies have been around in nigeria before 2014. Companies like interswitch and paga.

A local company taking over assets of an exiting company is not an expansion.

But the bottom line remains... what impact have these your sentimental 'rebasing' had on the masses? Have thier socio-economic conditions improved? Has the purchasing power improved?

You see socioeconomic conditions getting worse, yet you are more concerned with the facade. Anyway, some of you are beneficiaries of incompetence and corruption, so you are entitled to your sentiments.

it absolutely is, because Shell is primarily listed in the NY stock Exchange, not the Nigerian one.
The impact has been tremendous. Again, every city in Nigeria is a construction site right now. Houses are being built everyday meaning more people are entering the home owning class and at a very noteworthy rate. I can speak primarily of the South East, idk where you've been, but most cities in the Southeast have doubled in size in the past 10 years. Lagos, Abuja and others have witnessed the same thing.

All of these reflect jobs and earnings increasing. The fact that there's a lot of money in NIgeria isn't a fascade. I gain nothing if you believe or don't believe me, but there's a lot of money to be made. Things can improve but pretending they haven't just to express frustration isn't productive in my opinion

DeZoro:
I entered a mall in Toronto to.buy coke and the amount will amaze you. Two dollar and forty nine cent ($2.49).

Using the price of 50cl Coke in Canada versus Nigerian which is about Four Hundred naira (N400), I am suspecting that the ingredients are different combination. It means the Coke sold in Nigeria malls and shop are adultereted or of less ingredients.

I have attached the receipt of the Coke for verification in case you doubt..

the price it relative to income. The ingridents are different but based on regional taste (less or no carbination in Nigeria, more sugar)

ivandragon:


Rebasing is not something that is just done out of thing air.

Which base year would the government use to update its GDP and I?

What new sectors/industries have been significantly developed since the apc took over power in 2015?

Has the purchasing power of the masses improved?

True socio-economic development will be felt by the masses. The people will know that improvements have been made.

The apc has technically wiped out the middle class, so what exactly are they rebasing on? The increase in poverty?

The last rebasing was 2014. If you do not believe anything has happened in the economy since then, you're probably being sentimental. It's ok and normal to be frustrated, but I think most of our conversations about Nigeria and economics are unnecessarily emotional and sentimental.
But, for starters, Nigeria features several of the world's fastest growing cities. So for one, many cities have doubled in size, activity and output since then.

2014 Nigerian fintech, for example, didn't exist, today it's a multibillion dollar industry.
Nigeria has grown in tourism since then significantly, with more arrivals, more airlines, and more airports.
railroads have been onboarded since then.
Refineries have been commissioned and finished in that time.

Then, more small businesses (which is the core of Nigeria's economy) have been opened in that time.
Shell and Chevron have withdrawn and local producers have grown their share of oil. At the moment, we're a net exporter of refined gas and gas for the first time in recent NIgerian history.
By 2026, we will be a net exporter of refined gas, we're currently exporting jet fuel, aviation fuel, naphtha, fuel oil, and polypropylene.

Sectors like fashion are making international headlines, more young people make money online and internationally, crypto has been introduced to the econonmy, etc. Nigeria is, without question, one of the best markets for real estate on earth with the rate of home buying and home building being among the highest in the world.


This doesn't been there hasn't been setbacks. The naira crashing hurt everyone, and growth hasn't been as streamlined as need be.
But if you think we have to wait until there is 0 poverty, or 0 corruption to being factual and level headed about economic discussions then you're wrong.

So yes, rebasing the Nigerian economy will show there has been tremendous growth. Between now and 2014, there are countless industries that emerged that didn't exist before and most industries are doing well. If we quit being sentimental we can find opportunities to personally take advantage of.